Colin Powell: Quartet should talks to Hamas
"Former US Secretary of State Colin Powell said Thursday the international diplomatic Quartet on the Middle East should find some way to talk to Hamas.
"I don't think you can just cast them into outer darkness and try to find a solution to the problems of the region without taking to account the standing that Hamas has in the Palestinian community," Powell said in a radio interview.
He said Hamas, which controls Gaza, is not going away and enjoys considerable support among the Palestinian people."
How blasphemous! ADL is gonna be allover his ass. While simultaneously in lala land, US, EU uphold policy of shunning Hamas.
P.S. Please do not mistake my agreement with Mr. Powell on one point with having any respect for him after playing token black man to sell Bush's war and murder of other people.
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According to Brad and the other idiots commenting on your right to exist post below, Colin Powell apparently supports Hamas.
The racism espoused against African Americans at this site by posters like Fayyad is astounding. It's almost as solid by the anti-Semitism here.
For some reason though, Arabs think they can insult blacks because they are a minority and not white. Well, sorry to break it to you, racism is racism no matter whom says it. Very disappointing, and to think you have a link to crayonpeople.com. Talk about back-stabbing.
"playing token black man to sell Bush's war and murder of other people"
Right, why don;t you just come out and call him a House-______ or an Uncle Tom Fayyad?
Anonym. 11:23AM
Like many others who comment on here, you fail to stay on point. The post is about Powell suggesting that a dialog with Hamas is inevitable. Yet, all you can come up with is something that's totally irrelevant and totally absent from this post and from this site. Powell could've been Arab for all I care, so if I said "token Arab man," is that racist? Or how about "token Chinese man?" You just mentioned the word "Arab" in your comment, does that make you racist?
Nice try at attempting to link the word "black" with anti-semitism. I'm sure a lot of people will buy that brilliant argument. You know that saying? Silent is Golden? So if you don't have a counter-argument to the post, just stay quiet.
it takes a special type of stupid to argue that fayyad's being racist here.
Didn't you know? Fayyad is black from the waist down.
I thought that was common knowledge already.
clearly, Colin Powell supports Hamas. When is he going to learn, supporting Hamas (which he unequivocally does, as is clear from his statements) is not going to lead to peace.
Nidalio,
Like many others who comment on here, you fail to stay on point. The post is about Powell suggesting that a dialog with Hamas is inevitable.
If that was what the post was supposed to be about, then it was Fayyad who failed to stay on point. Like many of the other contributers here.
I agree with the anonymous commentator that this blog is racist enough to be classified as a hate site. And I always get a kick out of Palestinians complaining about racism, anyway... since Palestinians have got to be the most racist people on the planet, and unashamedly so. Apparently Palestinians feel they have a God given right to be racist pricks.
Anwyay...
a dialog with Hamas is inevitable.
Yeah. Right. Hamas is a terrorist group. The US engaging in dialog with terror groups is so 1980s. Or is it 1990s? Anyway. That doesn't happen anymore. But I sincerely hope you hold your breath, waiting for it to happen. I'm in solidarity with you on that one, man.
PS-The amount of support Hamas has with Palestinians just offers up an additional proof (if one was needed!) that Palestinians as a people support terrorism. So, Palestinians deserve to live in the shit. Forever and ever and ever. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks. When Palestinians stop teaching their kids to be mass murderers, maybe we can have a dialog then. Let us know when that happens, Nidalio.
Didn't you know? Fayyad is black from the waist down.
And you are Palestinian on the inside, right?
Brad,
I don't think Powell supports Hamas. I don't know where you got that from. What he's trying to say is we've always blindly supported Israel and passively listened to the puppet leaders of Fatah and still peace has not been achieved. So perhaps we should start talking to Hamas and see what they have to say. That's not supporting Hamas.
Craig,
"....this blog is racist enough to be classified as a hate site..."
What's your proof for that?
And are you listening to yourself? Here, if you already forgot what you wrote, here's a reminder:
"... Palestinians have got to be the most racist people on the planet, and unashamedly so. Apparently Palestinians feel they have a God given right to be racist pricks." And "Palestinians deserve to live in the shit. Forever and ever and ever."
Sounds like hate and racism to me. Practice what you preach.
"Yeah. Right. Hamas is a terrorist group. The US engaging in dialog with terror groups is so 1980s. Or is it 1990s?"
Well, the US has been supporting for the longest time a terrorist state, Israel, with 3-4bn dollars a year out my and your tax money. Just because they use machine guns and tanks instead of suicide bombers doesn't make them any different. Powell is not suggesting support for Hamas. Only dialog :o
"The amount of support Hamas has with Palestinians just offers up an additional proof (if one was needed!) that Palestinians as a people support terrorism."
No, Craig. Palestinian support came as the only alternative, because US/Israel-chosen PLO leaders didn't change anything for the lives of Palestinians. They brought only one thing: corruption. You're not a Palestinian and you haven't lived under conditions the Palestinians live under, so who are you to dictate what Palestinians should do and what is best for them?
Nidalio,
Craig "... Palestinians have got to be the most racist people on the planet, and unashamedly so. Apparently Palestinians feel they have a God given right to be racist pricks." And "Palestinians deserve to live in the shit. Forever and ever and ever."
Sounds like hate and racism to me. Practice what you preach.
Hate, yes. Palestinians support terrorism, including terrorism against me and mine, and the evidence of that is so abundant that i don't feel it necessary to even elaborate. That makes Palestinians my enemies. I do hate my enemies. I admit it.
That's not racism, buddy.
The rest of what you said was just more blah blah blah.
Craig,
"Palestinians support terrorism, including terrorism against me and mine, and the evidence of that is so abundant that i don't feel it necessary to even elaborate."
How is Palestinian "terrorism" against you? I didn't know their rocks reached Hickville or wherever you're from.
"The rest of what you said was just more blah blah blah."
Great come-back, Craig. Wow, I didn't see that coming.
How is Palestinian "terrorism" against you?
I'm not going to play semantics games with you. Palestinians have committed numerous attacks against Americans over the years, including numerous murders and numerous hijackings. Palestinians kidnapped 2 American journalists last year and forced them to convert to Islam at gunpoint, do you remember?
Don't try to pull this bullshit on me. I don't know just how gullible the Americans you are used to talking to are, but I'm not that kind of naive. Palestinians have been involved in international terrorism since the 1960s. Hell, Palestinians INVENTED international terrorism. QuiQui did a post about a Palestinian who hijacked two planes in the 1960s, you didn't read it? :O
I didn't know their rocks reached Hickville or wherever you're from.
Ah, see, you were asking for proof that Palestinians are racist in your earlier comment. Well, there it is. Why don't you call me a redneck backwoods country fuck cracker while you are at it? Come on, you know you want to :P
Great come-back, Craig. Wow, I didn't see that coming.
With that boilerplate rhetoric you like to use, you're lucky you got a response at all. The only reason you did is I wanted to mark my territory and let QuiQui know she hasn't run me off. I'd hate it if she took up some Arab bad habits and declared victory on me :O
This site needs to learn an age old adage:
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!!!!!!
Flame wars are useless. Let Craig or anyone else have their say, but why descend into stupid back and forths with both sides being obstinate. good times.
You are a racist. What an offensive article.
http://www.pmw.org.il/
http://antiracistblog.blogspot.com/
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!!!!!!
This entire blog is a "troll". If we all followed your advice, there wouldn't be any readers of it, let alone commenters :O
I repeat, the miserable douchebag Craig is a pathetic attention whore whose lack of originality or wit beggars the imagination. He has nothing to contribute to this conversation.
Deprive the flatulent nitwit of the notice he so desperately craves and do not respond to his ravings. Perhaps his Mom will notice his distress and finally step up to the plate, furnishing the love and interest she so obviously failed to provide during Craig's larval stage.
Trust me. Life's too short to indulge an empty scrotum like Craig.
Again, the personal attacks on Craig spell "PWN3D" for this thread.
Craig,
"Palestinians have committed numerous attacks against Americans over the years, including numerous murders and numerous hijackings."
If that's not merely stuff coming out of your ass, I'd like you to share some of those "numerous" attacks against Americans. Thanks :)
"Palestinians kidnapped 2 American journalists last year and forced them to convert to Islam at gunpoint, do you remember?"
The incident you're referring to was carried out by some group that was not previously heard of, and none of the factions in Gaza claimed to have any ties with it. They called themselves "Holy Jihad Brigades," yet forced two non-Muslims to convert, which shows that they knew nothing about Islam, which says "there's no compulsion in religion." The whole plot seems fishy, but that's besides the point. The point is, you're taking the actions of an unknown group and referring to it as "Palestinians." Let me ask you this: if some dude put on a white hood an started burning crosses on blacks' lawns, does that mean their hate to such people should include you because of your color?
Palestinians attack Americans
Hamas calls on Muslims to attack American targets
Some older attacks
Nidalio, haven't you scoffed at others for not knowing things like this?
Don't do it anymore.
Damn, Craig and Roy owned this thread! It's getting so easy, I started setting a stopwatch as soon as a new post comes out here, within a couple of hours, the post itself is deconstructed by Craig and sometime Roy and a few funny anonymous commenters, then Nidalio and QuiQui launch personal attacks since the lies that they first try are demolished as well.
This blog is like a dunk tank. Fayyad, Will, QuiQui, Fadi, etc., get up, and then get dunked within minutes.
No, your mom is like a dunk tank.
Haha, that's funny. At least she didn't strap a bomb on me as a child or send me out to play with tanks so I would get martyred and she could feel better about your dad beating her and wearing a potato sack.
Yeah, she just got educated, became a physician, moved to another country, went back to school, became a doctor again, and is constantly ellected to her board so she can monitor Muslim doctors trying to bring in their colleages to inspire medical jihad. Yeah, she's basically done more that the entire country of Sudan, but no one is counting.
Nidalio,
The incident you're referring to was carried out by some group that was not previously heard of, and none of the factions in Gaza claimed to have any ties with it.
Again with the cheap and disingenuous arguments. Who gives a fuck what "faction" they belonged to? Not me. It was Palestinians committing terrorist attacks on Americans, which is what you asked me to provide evidence of.
Roy,
Before you google up links and post them, you might want to read them. If you bothered to read the second link, you can actually find a quote from a Hamas member stating that their war is not against America, but the occupiers of their land. As for the other links, for the most part they don't show any specific targeting of Americans. Yes, some Americans died in those attacks, but they happened to be there at the wrong time. I could go to Iraq tomorrow and walk down a street and come back in a plastic bag. Would that be because they targeted me specifically? Second, the terrorism Craig is concerned about has nothing to do with what happened 30 years ago. Was there terrorism then? Yes. Can you associate it with terrorism on the US now? No. That's a sad attempt to tie the global "war on terror" in the US to what's happening in occupied territories. Finally, is there anti-American sentiment in Palestine. Absolutely. If I fully funded and supported a John Doe who kicks you and Craig out of your homes and makes your lives a living hell, you're not exactly going to send me a "Thank You" card in the mail for my actions.
Anonym. 9:33,
Nidalio and QuiQui launch personal attacks? Care to quote me at least? Or is disagreeing now "personal attacks?"
"At least she didn't strap a bomb on me as a child or send me out to play with tanks so I would get martyred and she could feel better about your dad beating her and wearing a potato sack."
Typical stereotyping; an attempt to dehumanize Palestinians, or Palestinian women more specifically. Nothing different from the attempts of Nazis at dehumanizing Jews.
Craig,
"Who gives a fuck what "faction" they belonged to? Not me. It was Palestinians committing terrorist attacks on Americans..."
Per your logic, if a group of white supremacists attacked blacks, I'm warranted to say "who gives a fuck what group they belonged to? Not me. It is whites committing crimes on blacks..." Did you iron your white hood today? Hey, don't get mad. I simply like your logic; it's so easy to generalize :)
"you're not exactly going to send me a "Thank You" card in the mail for my actions."
As an American, I can say, none is expected nor appreciated. You pose us no benefit, even at peace (with each other), so as a national interest, you do not exist. Thanks, and have a nice life.
"Nothing different from the attempts of Nazis at dehumanizing Jews."
As a Jew, I find your Nazi comparisons unfounded, grossly inaccurate and disproportionate, and insulting to the memories of all of the victims of the Holocaust, Jews and non-Jews included.
Furthermore, it's pathetic that in one comment you can allude to Israelis acting like Nazis while in another, expropriate another's victimhood for Palestinians, whom a majority of would in fact support another Holocaust. Disgusting.
Do me a favor. Stop using the Holocaust for your own agenda. Stick to "racial profiling" and "homophobia". Even CAIR, with it's 104 members knows how to do this better than you.
Anon. 3:39,
I'm an American too, and as a national interest, blind aid (aka American tax money) and support to Israel should stop, so should the steering of American foreign policy by AIPAC to serve the interests of Israel, not the US.
Anon. 3:48,
For the most part, the humiliation and dehumanization of Palestinians by Israel is very close to that of the Nazis towards Jews during WWII. A short read of a report or two by human rights organizations on Israel's human rights violations should do.
I have no use for the Holocaust for any agenda. And even if I did, the Zionists already beat me to it. Want to talk about "gross" and "insulting?" Ask why the Zionist movement left Jews in Europe die to use the Holocaust as an excuse to establish a Jewish State in Palestine:
""If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
David Ben-Gurion
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