But on a serious note - I hope that KABOBfest's readers take time today (and every day really) to reflect upon the underline reasons why so much political, social, and economic violence exists in this world - and, most importantly, how you as an individual, and we as a community, can help change that.
Just as Osama Bin Laden had no right to take so many innocent lives in NYC six years ago, neither does any other man or women - regardless of whether that person is George Bush, Ehud Olmert, Mahmoud Abbas, or Kermit the Frog. While it's true that the atrocities of 9-11 were a crime against humanity, so was our nation's devastating response in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Rest assure that for every innocent life lost - in America, Afghanistan, and Iraq - there's a child, family member, or friend who's sworn revenge… quite possibly another 9-11. Clearly, war is not the answer.
Still, to ask of a nation to "forgive and forget" without due justice is unfair. The prosecution of those directly involved, coupled with a strategic engagement of the broader Middle East and South Asia, however, would have served this purpose well. Instead, our government chose to respond to Bin Laden's violent rejection of America's political and economic assertions with the strengthening of those very contentions he and his followers propagate for increased legitimacy in the Muslim world and beyond - ensuring that future violence will ensue.
Indeed, today is a sad day - but not just for Americans, for us all…
Oh, Nadeemy, I swoon over your balanced mix of adolescent humor and sober lefty political analysis. Why do I bother dating this loser Iraqi in Canada, making silly videos for you to mock? I'm going to move down by you, unconvert from Islam, and reconvert to Christianity all for you baby!
But I bet you still wonder occasionally just who it is that is messing with - er, swooning over - you. No? Well, at least it provides a tiny respite from boredom. The rest of that time is filled by wikipedia. Thank you Lord Jesus in heaven for retarded posts by Nadeem and wikipedia. How else would I survive the workday? Oh yeah, the rest of the brilliant kabob team, youtube and google.
Hahaha... psycho bitch. If you don't like my shit, go hang on someone else's nuts. I write for KABOBfest for my own amusement. If you don't like it, start your own blog.
I, for one, find myself hilarious... and that's good enough for me :)
Ah, the least funny people are the ones that can't laugh at themselves. You do realize how ridiculous it is that you let someone get to you via a comment section on a blog, don't you? LOL.
Haha, Foofy sent me a private email scolding me for calling you a "psycho bitch." I think maybe you should be his #1 fan. After all, you two seem to know each other quite well...
But alas, I take it this love affair is over. I'd say "it isn't you, it's me" - but that would just be lying. Goodbye my dear. It was wonderful while it lasted. Thanks for the genital herpes - I'll cherish them for life...
Rest assure that for every innocent life lost - in America, Afghanistan, and Iraq - there's a child, family member, or friend who's sworn revenge… quite possibly another 9-11. Clearly, war is not the answer.
Um, war isn't about taking innocent life. Unless its war made by Hamas, who are apparently more harmless than Kermit the Frog.
how many innocent Palestinians are killed by Israel? How many innocent Palestinians are subjected to Isralie control yet denied the right to be a part of Israel, thus living under tyranny and oppression? How many innocent Palestinians are killed when Israel fires missles into crowded streets and markets? How many innocent Palestinians have their houses demolished, their towns ruined, their land stolen and given to colonists from around the world?
Get the fuck out of here you racist bitch. I bet American Slavery was justified in your eyes because there were people like Nat Turner.
Project Censored just released their annual list of under-covered stories from 2006-2007. http://www.projectcensored.org/
There isn't much that surprises me anymore, but I found #16 on the list totally fascinating...
#16 No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11
Osama bin Ladins role in the events of September 11, 2001 is not mentioned on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted notice. Six years later the FBI spokesperson explains, The reason 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11
FBI says, No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11 Ed Haas, Muckraker Report, 6/6/06
So Osama himself (if alive, which I think he is as much as Arafat the AIDS victim and Yassin, one of the ugliest motherfuckers who ever lived), claims he was responsible for the attacks, and yet you still believe in conspiracy theories. Are you as dumb as the Pali-American or is it possible you've dropped the bar for even Kabombfest.
Palestinian anti-semites and conspiracy theorists, joined at the hip. Free Palestine and Death to America!
Wild Thyme Kitchen: A little clarification for your "Truther" hype: Although bin Laden also later appeared on the first publicly released FBI Most Wanted Terrorists list on October 10, 2001, he was listed there for the 1998 embassy attack, and not for his alleged role in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000, because the most wanted lists name fugitives charged with a crime by a prosecutor or under indictment by a grand jury. Bin Laden was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in, for instance, the federal indictment against convicted terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, but has not been formally indicted for his role in the September 11, 2001 attacks.
Next time the NYPD put 50 bullets in a black man, I will be sure to argue black on black violence as a defense.
"Palestinians have set the bar much lower regarding killing civilians than Israel has. Do you deny this?"
What? Israel brutalizes millions of Palestinians on a daily, tortures thousands, displaced over a million, has killed and handicapped thousands and steals their land to give to others based on religion.
Next time the NYPD put 50 bullets in a black man, I will be sure to argue black on black violence as a defense.
I didn't offer a defense. I offered perspective. Do you say that black on black violence should be ignored because sometimes police do bad things?
That's how you treat Palestine: free pass until Israel is perfect.
What? Israel brutalizes millions of Palestinians on a daily, tortures thousands, displaced over a million, has killed and handicapped thousands and steals their land to give to others based on religion.
You're a liar, and of course you continue to pretend that Palestinians have done nothing unreasonable.
If Roy was a white slave owner in the US, he would have argued that people like Nat Turner (who killed innocent white people during his slave rebellion) justified slavery.
You see Roy, I don't justify the killing of innocent Isralies. I think its horrible and should be condemend. You on the other hand justify the killing of innocent Palestinians.
Nat Turner was wrong for killing innocent white people, but that didn't make slavery right.
Those Palestinians who target innocent Isralies are wrong. The continued tyranny and oppression of the Palestinians people by Israel is wrong and nothing can justify it.
Firing missles into crowded Palestinian markets and blowing up Palestinian grandmas, children and random street corner falafal vendors is terrorism. Oppression millions of people, controlling their lives, excerising control over them by your State, while denying them the right to be a part of the state is tyranny.
You see Roy, I don't justify the killing of innocent Isralies. I think its horrible and should be condemend.
It just doesn't get the amount of vitriol you reserve for Jews. Or for anyone (like me) who points out that Palestinians actually do what you claim here that you condemn.
Moral consistency, bitch, try it.
You and moral consistency have never met.
You mischaracterize Israeli attacks, and you never mention Palstinian atrocities, except when someone else points out that you never mention them. Then you give the perfunctory "I condemn those, too" blanket statement and go back to demonizing Jews.
You don't get to lecture me. You're a dishonest, childish, ridiculously emotional idiot who can't present a cogent argument.
Next time someone discusses the horrors of slavery, I will be sure to condem them for not pointing out that certain slaves killed innocent white people.
Israel controls the lives of millions of non-Jews. Those millions of non-jews are subject to Israel's control. Israel denies those non-Jews it controls citizenship and equal rights under the law, because they are not Jewish. It steals their land and gives it to Jews around the world. It doesn't allow Palestinians who are citizens of other countries to live in their native villages and town, but gives Jews with no connection to the land a citizenship, instantly, because they are Jewish.
Many Jewish human rights groups of documented systematic torture of Palestinains in order to maintain the status quo. Random jailings, beatings and killings are the norm.
Palestinians under Israel's control are not given equal rights under Isralie law and are not allowed to participate in Israel's democracy, but rather must simply live under its control.
Next time someone discusses the horrors of slavery, I will be sure to condem them for not pointing out that certain slaves killed innocent white people.
Your analogy is broken. Do you know why?*
Israel controls the lives of millions of non-Jews. Those millions of non-jews are subject to Israel's control.
And by and large, they're pretty content.
Israel denies those non-Jews it controls citizenship and equal rights under the law, because they are not Jewish.
That is a lie.
It steals their land and gives it to Jews around the world.
That is another lie.
Random jailings, beatings and killings are the norm.
That is another lie.
Palestinians under Israel's control are not given equal rights under Isralie law and are not allowed to participate in Israel's democracy, but rather must simply live under its control.
That is blather. They're not Israelis (note the spelling; it's a word you use a lot, so it behooves you to spell it right). We don't let Mexicans vote, either. Boo-frickin'-hoo.
Wow. They are content living under control of an entity but not having equal rights? That's why there were two Intifadas, to express the Palestinians happiness to live under Isralie tyranny and oppression.
Do you deny that Israel confiscates Palestinian land and builds settlements on them, and gives those settlements to Jews?
Not even Israel denys this.
" We don't let Mexicans vote, either."
So you admit that 50% of the people Israel controls (who are also non-Jews) are not given Isralie citizenship because they are not Jewish.
I'll describe the slave analogy again for you. There was a system in the US by which blacks were slaves and not given full rights under the law. There were slave rebellions against this evil horrible institution. In those slave rebellions, one of which was led by Nat Turner, many innocent white people, including babies and women were killed.
That was wrong. This wrong committed by Nat Turner however did not make slavery right.
The Palestinians suffer tyranny and oppression by Israel. Israel controls the lives of millions of Palestinians (which equals 50% of the people controlled by Israel, blacks make up about 12% of the US), those Palestinians controlled by Israel are not given citzienship are subjected to routine torture, murder, terrorism, land confiscation and many other well documented human rights abuses.
Nothing can justify this treatment of the Palestinians.
That's why there were two Intifadas, to express the Palestinians happiness to live under Isralie tyranny and oppression.
Those weren't people who live in Israel. There isn't a double standard outside Israel's borders, because there aren't Israelis living there (apart from the settlers, who I have never supported).
So your complaint is that Israel treats those outside Israel differently from those inside it?
Do you deny that Israel confiscates Palestinian land and builds settlements on them, and gives those settlements to Jews?
Yes.
So you admit that 50% of the people Israel controls (who are also non-Jews) are not given Isralie citizenship because they are not Jewish.
No.
I'll describe the slave analogy again for you.
Thanks. It's just as stupid an irrelevant the second time around.
Nothing can justify this treatment of the Palestinians.
"Those weren't people who live in Israel. There isn't a double standard outside Israel's borders, because there aren't Israelis living there (apart from the settlers, who I have never supported).
So your complaint is that Israel treats those outside Israel differently from those inside it?"
It is a fact that Israel controls the lives of millions of Palestinians who live outside of that which you imply is the end of Israel's border. Those people who are under Israel's control do not have equal rights under the entity, Israel, that controls them.
"Yes".
You contradict yourself. You state "...apart from the settlers, who I have never supported"...thus acknowledging the existence of settlments, yet you answered "Yes" that you believe Israle does not confiscate Paletinian land and build settlements for Jews.
Please don't insult the memory of black slaves in America's dark period, by comparing them to the Palestinian terrorists, especially given the Arab World's contempt for black people, and supported by Arab militias in murdering blacks in Darfur.
It's really pathetic and justifies no comparison. In fact, the only reason you make this comparisoon is to deflect attention away from your weak argument, which if true, needs no comparison to hold its own ground.
Ever see Palestinians prosecuting their own for attacks on Israelis?
Nope.
Another Another: Last year, a female Israeli soldier assigned to a Gaza Strip checkpoint was convicted of forcing a Palestinian woman at gunpoint to drink a bottle of cleaning fluid, according to court records.
Compare that with Hamas' request that Palestinian terrorists keep their rockets away from border crossings, lest they impede Palestinian activities.
"Please don't confuse the issues. Palestinians have a lot in commone with the Jews of Nazi Germany and Blacks during US Slavery."
Yeah, Palestinians have in common, the ability to leach onto other's narratives, since theirs are mostly based on lies. Who was the leader of the Palestinians before yoru gay Arafat? Name a king, president, etc. When was Palestine founded (not by Romans)?
It's bullshit, neither Jews nor blacks support this comparison. Only weak, terrorist supporting Palistinians have the disrespect to leach onto and dimish other's suffering to justify their own. Like I said, pathetic. Pa....thetic. Shame.
Nice. Now show me the order that Israel passed giving Palestinians equal rights under the law. Show me the link that shows Israel taking responsibility for the tyranny, displacement and oppression it has caused the Palestinians for over 60 years. Show me where Israel takes responsiblity for the lives it has ruined, the terrorism it has caused and the land it has stolen. I googled, but couldn't find it.
You may push Roy to join the IDF, where he'll shoot kids under 13 in the face, drop bombs on old Palestinian women, steal land and give it to Europoeans.
Nice Roy! For the ones in denial, I'll repost the most pertinent lines:
"But while the assembly of hundreds of Palestinians in anticipation of the planned Israeli bombing did succeed in protecting Barud's home, the tactic may have backfired from a propaganda perspective: It served to demonstrate that Israel does not seek to kill Palestinian civilians wholesale, as Arab propagandists constantly claim. Indeed, it is clear the Palestinians themselves do not believe their own propaganda about Israel's alleged thirst for blood. Otherwise, they never would have been able to recruit all those human shields.
If Israel really were as sadistic as its critics claim, it wouldn't have called off yesterday's bombing run. Just the opposite: It would have jumped at the chance to kill so many Palestinians at one go. Just imagine if the shoe were on the other foot, and hundreds of Israeli "human shields" positioned themselves in an unguarded cafe in the West Bank. Palestinian suicide bombers would be stepping over each other in an effort to attack the target. "Human shields" work only when your enemy fights like a human."
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I didn't know Osama was a twink!
This video was excruciatingly long, by the way.
Oh, Nadeemy, I swoon over your balanced mix of adolescent humor and sober lefty political analysis. Why do I bother dating this loser Iraqi in Canada, making silly videos for you to mock? I'm going to move down by you, unconvert from Islam, and reconvert to Christianity all for you baby!
He can't. Masturbation is haram.
Haha - nice try, but I don't believe for a second that you're that hot blonde from the youtube videos!
The only thing that has me skeptical is that someone from Canada logged onto youtube the same minute you posted that comment...
But I bet you still wonder occasionally just who it is that is messing with - er, swooning over - you. No? Well, at least it provides a tiny respite from boredom. The rest of that time is filled by wikipedia. Thank you Lord Jesus in heaven for retarded posts by Nadeem and wikipedia. How else would I survive the workday? Oh yeah, the rest of the brilliant kabob team, youtube and google.
Write something clever, woncha? I'm bored.
Hahaha... psycho bitch. If you don't like my shit, go hang on someone else's nuts. I write for KABOBfest for my own amusement. If you don't like it, start your own blog.
I, for one, find myself hilarious... and that's good enough for me :)
Ah, the least funny people are the ones that can't laugh at themselves. You do realize how ridiculous it is that you let someone get to you via a comment section on a blog, don't you? LOL.
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Haha, Foofy sent me a private email scolding me for calling you a "psycho bitch." I think maybe you should be his #1 fan. After all, you two seem to know each other quite well...
But alas, I take it this love affair is over. I'd say "it isn't you, it's me" - but that would just be lying. Goodbye my dear. It was wonderful while it lasted. Thanks for the genital herpes - I'll cherish them for life...
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reflect upon the underline reasons
"Underlying".
Rest assure that for every innocent life lost - in America, Afghanistan, and Iraq - there's a child, family member, or friend who's sworn revenge… quite possibly another 9-11. Clearly, war is not the answer.
Um, war isn't about taking innocent life. Unless its war made by Hamas, who are apparently more harmless than Kermit the Frog.
Um, but war does take innocent life. It actually takes more innocent life than guilty life. Especially in this case.
Roy,
how many innocent Palestinians are killed by Israel? How many innocent Palestinians are subjected to Isralie control yet denied the right to be a part of Israel, thus living under tyranny and oppression? How many innocent Palestinians are killed when Israel fires missles into crowded streets and markets? How many innocent Palestinians have their houses demolished, their towns ruined, their land stolen and given to colonists from around the world?
Get the fuck out of here you racist bitch. I bet American Slavery was justified in your eyes because there were people like Nat Turner.
Project Censored just released their annual list of under-covered stories from 2006-2007.
http://www.projectcensored.org/
There isn't much that surprises me anymore, but I found #16 on the list totally fascinating...
#16 No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11
Osama bin Ladins role in the events of September 11, 2001 is not
mentioned on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted notice. Six years later the
FBI spokesperson explains, The reason 9/11 is not mentioned on
Osama bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard
evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11
FBI says, No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11 Ed Haas,
Muckraker Report, 6/6/06
http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html
Hi all! And Death to America!
So Osama himself (if alive, which I think he is as much as Arafat the AIDS victim and Yassin, one of the ugliest motherfuckers who ever lived), claims he was responsible for the attacks, and yet you still believe in conspiracy theories. Are you as dumb as the Pali-American or is it possible you've dropped the bar for even Kabombfest.
Palestinian anti-semites and conspiracy theorists, joined at the hip. Free Palestine and Death to America!
pali-anti-american:
how many innocent Palestinians are killed by Israel?
About as many as are killed by Palestinians.
How many innocent Palestinians are killed when Israel fires missles into crowded streets and markets?
Palestinians have set the bar much lower regarding killing civilians than Israel has. Do you deny this?
Get the fuck out of here you racist bitch.
Is that foam streaming down your beard? You could take some lessons from this guy.
Wild Thyme Kitchen: A little clarification for your "Truther" hype:
Although bin Laden also later appeared on the first publicly released FBI Most Wanted Terrorists list on October 10, 2001, he was listed there for the 1998 embassy attack, and not for his alleged role in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000, because the most wanted lists name fugitives charged with a crime by a prosecutor or under indictment by a grand jury. Bin Laden was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in, for instance, the federal indictment against convicted terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, but has not been formally indicted for his role in the September 11, 2001 attacks.
"About as many as are killed by Palestinians."
Next time the NYPD put 50 bullets in a black man, I will be sure to argue black on black violence as a defense.
"Palestinians have set the bar much lower regarding killing civilians than Israel has. Do you deny this?"
What? Israel brutalizes millions of Palestinians on a daily, tortures thousands, displaced over a million, has killed and handicapped thousands and steals their land to give to others based on religion.
"Is that foam streaming down your beard?"
That's just stupid.
Next time the NYPD put 50 bullets in a black man, I will be sure to argue black on black violence as a defense.
I didn't offer a defense. I offered perspective. Do you say that black on black violence should be ignored because sometimes police do bad things?
That's how you treat Palestine: free pass until Israel is perfect.
What? Israel brutalizes millions of Palestinians on a daily, tortures thousands, displaced over a million, has killed and handicapped thousands and steals their land to give to others based on religion.
You're a liar, and of course you continue to pretend that Palestinians have done nothing unreasonable.
If Roy was a white slave owner in the US, he would have argued that people like Nat Turner (who killed innocent white people during his slave rebellion) justified slavery.
You see Roy, I don't justify the killing of innocent Isralies. I think its horrible and should be condemend. You on the other hand justify the killing of innocent Palestinians.
Nat Turner was wrong for killing innocent white people, but that didn't make slavery right.
Those Palestinians who target innocent Isralies are wrong. The continued tyranny and oppression of the Palestinians people by Israel is wrong and nothing can justify it.
Firing missles into crowded Palestinian markets and blowing up Palestinian grandmas, children and random street corner falafal vendors is terrorism. Oppression millions of people, controlling their lives, excerising control over them by your State, while denying them the right to be a part of the state is tyranny.
Moral consistency, bitch, try it.
You see Roy, I don't justify the killing of innocent Isralies. I think its horrible and should be condemend.
It just doesn't get the amount of vitriol you reserve for Jews. Or for anyone (like me) who points out that Palestinians actually do what you claim here that you condemn.
Moral consistency, bitch, try it.
You and moral consistency have never met.
You mischaracterize Israeli attacks, and you never mention Palstinian atrocities, except when someone else points out that you never mention them. Then you give the perfunctory "I condemn those, too" blanket statement and go back to demonizing Jews.
You don't get to lecture me. You're a dishonest, childish, ridiculously emotional idiot who can't present a cogent argument.
Next time someone discusses the horrors of slavery, I will be sure to condem them for not pointing out that certain slaves killed innocent white people.
Israel controls the lives of millions of non-Jews. Those millions of non-jews are subject to Israel's control. Israel denies those non-Jews it controls citizenship and equal rights under the law, because they are not Jewish. It steals their land and gives it to Jews around the world. It doesn't allow Palestinians who are citizens of other countries to live in their native villages and town, but gives Jews with no connection to the land a citizenship, instantly, because they are Jewish.
Many Jewish human rights groups of documented systematic torture of Palestinains in order to maintain the status quo. Random jailings, beatings and killings are the norm.
Palestinians under Israel's control are not given equal rights under Isralie law and are not allowed to participate in Israel's democracy, but rather must simply live under its control.
Next time someone discusses the horrors of slavery, I will be sure to condem them for not pointing out that certain slaves killed innocent white people.
Your analogy is broken. Do you know why?*
Israel controls the lives of millions of non-Jews. Those millions of non-jews are subject to Israel's control.
And by and large, they're pretty content.
Israel denies those non-Jews it controls citizenship and equal rights under the law, because they are not Jewish.
That is a lie.
It steals their land and gives it to Jews around the world.
That is another lie.
Random jailings, beatings and killings are the norm.
That is another lie.
Palestinians under Israel's control are not given equal rights under Isralie law and are not allowed to participate in Israel's democracy, but rather must simply live under its control.
That is blather. They're not Israelis (note the spelling; it's a word you use a lot, so it behooves you to spell it right). We don't let Mexicans vote, either. Boo-frickin'-hoo.
Palestinians under Palestinian control often fare much worse.
*It's because "certain slaves" is an exceptional case; Palestinians killing Palestinians is pretty common; often comparable to the number killed by Israelis.
"And by and large, they're pretty content."
Wow. They are content living under control of an entity but not having equal rights? That's why there were two Intifadas, to express the Palestinians happiness to live under Isralie tyranny and oppression.
Do you deny that Israel confiscates Palestinian land and builds settlements on them, and gives those settlements to Jews?
Not even Israel denys this.
" We don't let Mexicans vote, either."
So you admit that 50% of the people Israel controls (who are also non-Jews) are not given Isralie citizenship because they are not Jewish.
I'll describe the slave analogy again for you. There was a system in the US by which blacks were slaves and not given full rights under the law. There were slave rebellions against this evil horrible institution. In those slave rebellions, one of which was led by Nat Turner, many innocent white people, including babies and women were killed.
That was wrong. This wrong committed by Nat Turner however did not make slavery right.
The Palestinians suffer tyranny and oppression by Israel. Israel controls the lives of millions of Palestinians (which equals 50% of the people controlled by Israel, blacks make up about 12% of the US), those Palestinians controlled by Israel are not given citzienship are subjected to routine torture, murder, terrorism, land confiscation and many other well documented human rights abuses.
Nothing can justify this treatment of the Palestinians.
That's why there were two Intifadas, to express the Palestinians happiness to live under Isralie tyranny and oppression.
Those weren't people who live in Israel. There isn't a double standard outside Israel's borders, because there aren't Israelis living there (apart from the settlers, who I have never supported).
So your complaint is that Israel treats those outside Israel differently from those inside it?
Do you deny that Israel confiscates Palestinian land and builds settlements on them, and gives those settlements to Jews?
Yes.
So you admit that 50% of the people Israel controls (who are also non-Jews) are not given Isralie citizenship because they are not Jewish.
No.
I'll describe the slave analogy again for you.
Thanks. It's just as stupid an irrelevant the second time around.
Nothing can justify this treatment of the Palestinians.
Maybe they should end the war.
"Those weren't people who live in Israel. There isn't a double standard outside Israel's borders, because there aren't Israelis living there (apart from the settlers, who I have never supported).
So your complaint is that Israel treats those outside Israel differently from those inside it?"
It is a fact that Israel controls the lives of millions of Palestinians who live outside of that which you imply is the end of Israel's border. Those people who are under Israel's control do not have equal rights under the entity, Israel, that controls them.
"Yes".
You contradict yourself. You state "...apart from the settlers, who I have never supported"...thus acknowledging the existence of settlments, yet you answered "Yes" that you believe Israle does not confiscate Paletinian land and build settlements for Jews.
My Nat Turner analogy is on point.
It is a fact that Israel controls the lives of millions of Palestinians who live outside of that which you imply is the end of Israel's border.
No, it is not. Israel has influence, but does not "control their lives". Israel is not their government.
you believe Israle does not confiscate Paletinian land and build settlements for Jews.
I don't believe Israel confiscated Palestinian land for those settlements.
My Nat Turner analogy is on point.
Nope. It's a tremendous reach for something you hope will give you moral high ground if only you can make it fit.
But you can't. So you have to rely on your own ability to present an argument.
Disaster.
This article on settlements should help you understand the facts a little better.
No confiscation. No giving to Jews. You get a heaping double-dose of FAIL. Enjoy it.
The article also mentions the Golan Heights Law, which gave residents there the same rights and responsibilities as others in Israel.
So much for your "equal rights" claim.
Please don't insult the memory of black slaves in America's dark period, by comparing them to the Palestinian terrorists, especially given the Arab World's contempt for black people, and supported by Arab militias in murdering blacks in Darfur.
It's really pathetic and justifies no comparison. In fact, the only reason you make this comparisoon is to deflect attention away from your weak argument, which if true, needs no comparison to hold its own ground.
Roy 10 , Pali-Anti-American 0
Please don't confuse the issues. Palestinians have a lot in commone with the Jews of Nazi Germany and Blacks during US Slavery.
Truth 11 Roy 0
Israel prosecutes Israelis for violence against Palestinians
Ever see Palestinians prosecuting their own for attacks on Israelis?
Nope.
Another
Another: Last year, a female Israeli soldier assigned to a Gaza Strip checkpoint was convicted of forcing a Palestinian woman at gunpoint to drink a bottle of cleaning fluid, according to court records.
Compare that with Hamas' request that Palestinian terrorists keep their rockets away from border crossings, lest they impede Palestinian activities.
Careful Roy, you're going to get this loser so worked up, he may decide to go InstaJihadee like this idiot in Dearbornistan:
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/13/video-freelance-terror-attack-averted-in-michigan/
Training to be a doctor no less.... hmmm
"Please don't confuse the issues. Palestinians have a lot in commone with the Jews of Nazi Germany and Blacks during US Slavery."
Yeah, Palestinians have in common, the ability to leach onto other's narratives, since theirs are mostly based on lies. Who was the leader of the Palestinians before yoru gay Arafat? Name a king, president, etc. When was Palestine founded (not by Romans)?
It's bullshit, neither Jews nor blacks support this comparison. Only weak, terrorist supporting Palistinians have the disrespect to leach onto and dimish other's suffering to justify their own. Like I said, pathetic. Pa....thetic. Shame.
Roy/Truth 15 , Pali-AntiAmericans 0
Nice. Now show me the order that Israel passed giving Palestinians equal rights under the law. Show me the link that shows Israel taking responsibility for the tyranny, displacement and oppression it has caused the Palestinians for over 60 years. Show me where Israel takes responsiblity for the lives it has ruined, the terrorism it has caused and the land it has stolen. I googled, but couldn't find it.
Becareful Pali-American,
You may push Roy to join the IDF, where he'll shoot kids under 13 in the face, drop bombs on old Palestinian women, steal land and give it to Europoeans.
Pali-Anti-American has a lot of balls asking for sources when he's never supplied one, evah!
http://www.btselem.org/English/Publications/Summaries/200205_Land_Grab.asp
Now show me the order that Israel passed giving Palestinians equal rights under the law.
No such law was needed for areas that Israel doesn't govern. It passed the Golan Heights Law, though.
Meanwhile, what are you showing me? Is this going to be entirely one-sided?
me the link that shows Israel taking responsibility for the tyranny, displacement and oppression it has caused the Palestinians for over 60 years.
Apparently that's a "yes". I supply facts, sources, and arguments, and you supply hyperbole and emotionally-charged blather. Great.
Show me where Israel takes responsiblity for the lives it has ruined, the terrorism it has caused and the land it has stolen.
Maybe this is what you're looking for.
For those who may have missed it, I just want to point out your wonderful even-handedness in casting Israel as the sole reason for Palestinian misery.
Nice Roy! For the ones in denial, I'll repost the most pertinent lines:
"But while the assembly of hundreds of Palestinians in anticipation of the planned Israeli bombing did succeed in protecting Barud's home, the tactic may have backfired from a propaganda perspective: It served to demonstrate that Israel does not seek to kill Palestinian civilians wholesale, as Arab propagandists constantly claim. Indeed, it is clear the Palestinians themselves do not believe their own propaganda about Israel's alleged thirst for blood. Otherwise, they never would have been able to recruit all those human shields.
If Israel really were as sadistic as its critics claim, it wouldn't have called off yesterday's bombing run. Just the opposite: It would have jumped at the chance to kill so many Palestinians at one go. Just imagine if the shoe were on the other foot, and hundreds of Israeli "human shields" positioned themselves in an unguarded cafe in the West Bank. Palestinian suicide bombers would be stepping over each other in an effort to attack the target. "Human shields" work only when your enemy fights like a human."
May I say... Checkmate
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