According to the print issue of the International Herald Tribune on Feb 8,
Lawmakers voted early Thursday to approve a constitutional amendment to allow women to enter universities wearing Islamic head scarves, a move that many secular Turks view as an attempt to impose religion on their daily lives.Well, I should think so!! Forcing women to choose between their religious beliefs and their education is completely and utterly unacceptable, first off. As it stands in Turkey, you can't study at university, or teach for that matter, if you are a religious Muslim woman who wears the headscarf. You either have to violate your religious beliefs, give up your educational career altogether in anything outside Islamic Law, or opt for a third choice: learning an entirely new language in order to study in another country.
Lawmakers voted 401 to 110 in a preliminary vote in favor of the government's proposed amendment to the Constitution. The government has defended its plan as a reform needed to give its citizens religious liberty and bring Turkey in line with European Union human rights guidelines.
A second, final round of voting was scheduled for Saturday. (AP)
I studied Arabic with a young Turkish woman in Jordan, who was studying to master the Arabic language in order to obtain a bachelor's level degree from the University of Jordan in Psychology. The route to higher education in her own country was closed to her, as she chose to wear hijab.
I view any policy that excludes women for wearing hijab as just as offensive and unacceptable as a policy that excludes women who do not. But fundamental personal religious freedoms aside, it can't possibly be in Turkey's best interest as a nation to encourage bright and ideological young people to leave and put down roots elsewhere for the sake of their education.
Aha! Here's a BBC article on the same topic.
According to it, two-thirds of women in Turkey cover their hair... that's a lot of people not allowed to attend college classes.
The government's plan to change the law has sparked large protest rallies by secular Turks, who want to defend the legacy of the modern state's founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.
They fear it may be a first step to eroding the secular system.
Yes! It's a slippery slippery slope, my friends. A SLIPPERY SLOPE! First your religious neighbor's daughter will attend classes with yours, and then there will be NO ALCOHOL SOLD ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY!!!!!! ANYWHERE!!!!!
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Why do you care about Turkey, Emily? You aren't Muslim, and they aren't Arab. What is your common cause with them? They aren't even in the middle east.
I honestly don't get it. Actually, I kinda do, but I don't want to.
KABOBfest,
Would you please post an article about avatars and video games so that programmer craig can contribute something of value?
Would you please post an article about avatars and video games so that programmer craig can contribute something of value?
Like you? How do you feel about a Christian who is so dedicated to the Islamic agenda that she never talks about anything else? You know as well as I do the only reason she talks about Turkey is because it's a Muslim country. Aren't there any "human rights" problems in Christian countries that she could talk about?
I'd give her a pass, and assume she actually IS concerned about this issue (and not about serving her agenda) if she had any history at all of talking about things without bringing politics into the picture. I've seen Arabs, Muslim and Christian both, blogging and commenting on this one in the last week, and haven't challenged their reasons for doing so. Because I believed they were sincere. I don't for a minute believe that Emily is sincere. Not after the posts she made about Christianity in the last few days, and the way she attempted to co-opt Christianity to serve the Palestinian cause. And attacked me personally when I rightly objected.
Would you please post an article about avatars and video games
But that's a good idea. Wanna bet the only video game KABOBers would ever talk about is the Hezbollah divine victory game that came out last year? :P
NO.... The assassins whackin templars was not a bad game either...
The assassins were Shia. They whacked a hell of a lot more Sunni Arabs than they did Templars. In fact, it was Sunni Arabs who went running to the Crusaders whining and crying about the assassins.
Whacking Sunni Arabs and Templars both was a pretty worthy effort though, wouldn't you agree?
But what game is this you speak of?
Why are you so concerned with what Emily thinks or talks about crackhead? You are a control freak that wants to dominate women. It's none of your damn business!
It's none of your damn business!
Of course, it is my business, when this blog is so anti-American and so pro-Islam. How could it not be?
You are a control freak that wants to dominate women.
Oh, now you call me a misogynist too! An Arab woman like you must be quite an expert on that subject, eh?
It's not a wise strategy to play your weaknesses against your opponent's strengths, Safiyyah.
This should make both you and "Saladin" happy, Eduardo.
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Rome Total War: Saxons vs Romans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgGJ_NH1fcI&feature=related
Saxons win. Bummer.
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Rome Total War: Saxons vs Huns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKGWeo3pPwM&feature=related
Saxons win again :O
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You see the cool swords they have? That was a nice touch. That's called a "Seax" and it's where the tribe gets it's name.
No Arabs in this game. Sorry. It seems Islam didn't exist at the time. Closest thing to Arabs is the Parthians and the Egyptians.
PC,
"In fact, it was Sunni Arabs who went running to the Crusaders whining and crying about the assassins."
You will find this fact well documented in Craig's BOOk OF History for the Bigotted Deranged.
No wonder at all that Craig is threatend by a Christian defending general freedoms for Muslims or the Arab Cause.
"I don't for a minute believe that Emily is sincere. Not after the posts she made about Christianity in the last few days, and the way she attempted to co-opt Christianity to serve the Palestinian cause."
We believe that you're sincere when you use Judaism or even Christianity to defend Israel.
You will find this fact well documented in Craig's BOOk OF History for the Bigotted Deranged.
So, the actual recorded histories are racist, eh? :D
The whole world is conspiring against you, man. It's terrible.
No wonder at all that Craig is threatend by a Christian defending general freedoms for Muslims or the Arab Cause.
It's not an *Arab* cause. Please see my first comment. The Turks are NOT Arabs, dude. They aren't even middle-eastern. They are European.
I do find it suspect when a so-called Christian takes so much in an *Islamic* cause. I think it's fucking crazy for a Christian Arab to be dedicate her life to Islam. Sue me.
We believe that you're sincere when you use Judaism or even Christianity to defend Israel.
Defend Israel from what? Your bigotry? You would prefer that I allow my religion to be twisted into something Muslims can use against Jews? Or are you going to pretend that the Arab-Israeli conflict doesn't have anything to do with Islam? Even Emily knows better than that, as she just demonstrated.
"It's not an *Arab* cause. Please see my first comment. The Turks are NOT Arabs"
I did not suggest that Turcks are Arabs. But They're Muslims for sure. You seem to have a difficulty seperatig the two.
"I do find it suspect when a so-called Christian takes so much in an *Islamic* cause. I think it's fucking crazy for a Christian Arab to be dedicate her life to Islam. Sue me."
So she's either a muslim pretending to be a Christian or a Chritian who's on the Muslims payrole. How brilliant!
"Or are you going to pretend that the Arab-Israeli conflict doesn't have anything to do with Islam?"
And Judaism...
Hijab had never been a part of religion or Turkish culture! The first group of women who wore the hijab emerged in 1980s! they never existed before in Turkey. and Turks are Muslims for a very very long time. If it was in religion it would have appeared somewhere in those hundreds of years. This issue has never been an issue in Turkey before! Now, the separatists are well using this item called hijab to cause separation within the country, so the breaking it will be easier.
The Turkish Lawmakers voted to allow hijab in universities today. Another victory for democracy in Turkey. Hope the Arabs would take the example.
So she's either a muslim pretending to be a Christian or a Chritian who's on the Muslims payrole. How brilliant!
No, she's a fake Christian who cares more about Islam and Arab Nationalism than she does about Christianity. Islam serves her Arab Nationalist cause (which has always been built on the Palestinian cause) which is why she serves Islam by "caring" so much about Islamic issues in Turkey. She's very selective about who she shows solidarity to, and she's showing that solidarity with non-Arab Muslims. Not with non-Arab Christians.
Do YOU think she's a believing Christian, b-cell? Oh, you're going to tell me you don't have the right to make that assessment, aren't you? Well, I do. And, I have. Emily doesn't get to hijack my religion to serve another.
PS..
Bethlehem: The Realest Christians You're Likely to Meet
I'm not the one who made a post with that title on this blog. Emily, if you believe that's true, you're going to have to prove it. No believing Christian would say that another religion -ANY other religion - was as important to them as their own. No believing Christian would dispense with their own beliefs to support Islam and Muslim causes.
And yet Palestinian Christians have a very long history of doing just that. Palestinian Christians may very well be the least "real" Christians on the planet, and yet you claimed the exact opposite. It may not be your fault. You may not even know what Christians are like, outside of the Arab World. But that doesn't excuse your attacks on people who point out how wrong you are about Christianity.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4531520.stm
Christians were always active in the Palestinian national movement and today one of the best-known Palestinian voices is that of Hanan Ashrawi, a Christian academic and human-rights activist.
Is that a joke, Emily? Her after was a founder of the PLO, and she acted as a spokesman for Yassir Arafat (a bloody handed terrorist and mass murderer) for years?
Is she a "real" Christian, Emily?
Don't other Christians have a say in that at all? I think we really should have some way of voting people off the Island. Her faith, whatever it is, doesn't resemble any form of Christianity that I know of.
Do you think you're going to be obsessed with attacking others until you die? Poor thing. I wish you peace someday.
Do you think you're going to be obsessed with attacking others until you die? Poor thing. I wish you peace someday.
I only do it on this blog, Safiyyah. And only because these bloggers and these commenters are so *worthy* of being attacked.
What's your excuse? I've never seen you do anything but attack, and you presumably support the same cause these bloggers do?
You know as well as I do that this blog would cease to exist if the bloggers had to limit themselves to rational and defensible positions. It's a propaganda blog, after all.
Poor thing. I wish you peace someday.
Nice touch, by the way. Some people might think you meant it :P
I bet if we did a "blind" survey of people who know you, and people who know me, that you'd come across a much nastier person than I am.
Edward Said was christian
Craig: HE WASN';T A REAS;L CJRISTIAN!!! (foam fall from mouth)
REAL CHRISTIANS TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!!
I don't know if he was a "real" Christian or not, enon. But if he was Hanan Ashrawi's mentor, I'm thinking... not. There are some things that believing Christians just don't do. Holding hands with unrepentant murderers is one of them. Supporting a political philosophy that advocates genocide is another. Hitler's birth certificate said "Christian" on it too, you know.
That was my last response to you, because of all the people here, you are the worst with the idiotic one liners, and to be honest I have trouble even finding enough in your comments to reply to.
Pope Craig XII is calling for a crusade to purificate the internet from all the misled Muslim and Arab loving self hating fake Christians. And he's granting in return certificates of redemption and acers in paradise.
b-cell, I should do that. I could dress up in a mickey mouse outfit and go on TV too. Why the hell not, it's what your side does?
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