Tuesday, March 11, 2008

Japan and Middle East Politics in History

The paper begins, "Most people at the turn of the twenty-first century have forgotten that there was a time in Japan before World War II when Japanese nationalists showed an Asianist face to the world's Muslims, whom they wanted to befriend as allies in the construction of a new Asia under Japanese domination." Muslims saw the rising Japanese power as a counterforce to Western imperialism. What a fascinating history.

On a similar, but very separate, note, check out this interview with May Shigenobu, the daughter of imprisoned Japanese Red Army founder, Fusako Shigenobu. May was at the center of a controversy over a talk she gave at a school. She also criticized her mother's lack of access to health care in prison.

13 comments:

programmer craig said...

Praise for Imperial Japan and for a Japanese terrorist group, in one post! As if Palestinian adoration of Hitler during and before WWII wasn't bad enough! Way to go, Will! That's how you convince people Palestinians should have a state!

Will said...

This "praise" is part of your overactive post-traumatic imagination , PC.

I did not write anything positive about either Imperial Japan, which was clearly as genocidal as any other empire, nor the Japanese Red Army.

programmer craig said...

Yes. I suppose you just made this whole post for no particular reason, right Will? :P

Maytha said...

ummm, was is this tagged as a kuffiyah story!?!?!? THis SO is necessary! Do you have the dates or bylines that accompanied these pics?

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Safiyyah said...

Why do you think the question is whether Palestinians "should" have a state? It's about self-determination and democracy. I guess they don't teach about democracy in the Marines. Go figure.

I know some Marines. They're not as big of douche bags as you are. They do grunt a lot, though... I guess you're soiling their reputation TOO much.

programmer craig said...

Why do you think the question is whether Palestinians "should" have a state? It's about self-determination and democracy. I guess they don't teach about democracy in the Marines. Go figure.

Oh. OK, then. So what's all your activism about, if you don't think you need to convince anyone Palestinians deserve their own state? And do you think any dirtbag who wants self-determination should have it? By the way, Palestinians already had a state, in 1948. For about 20 minutes. Palestinians also have their own state, in Jordan, do they not? Is it so important they have one called "Palestine"? Why not just rename Jordan to "Palestine", then? Jordan is not a historically valid name, anyway.

I know some Marines. They're not as big of douche bags as you are. They do grunt a lot, though... I guess you're soiling their reputation TOO much.

Safiyyah, I hate to break it to you, but getting banged by a Marine you met in a bar doesn't count as "knowing" him except in a biblical sense :P

b-cell said...

"Palestinians also have their own state, in Jordan, do they not?"

Jordan and Palestine are sole twins. BY occupying one you're occcupying the other. And living ia a refugee camp in Jordan does not count as having a state, asshole.

"Is it so important they have one called "Palestine"?"

They already do, and they'll will have it back eventually.

"Jordan is not a historically valid name..."

According to who? Jordan is a state since 1921. That's 27 years before Israel, you idiot.

programmer craig said...

Jordan and Palestine are sole twins. BY occupying one you're occcupying the other.

My country isn't occupying either :)

And living ia a refugee camp in Jordan does not count as having a state, asshole.

But when 70% plus of "Jordanians" are actually Palestinian, that actually DOES count as having a state, asshole.

They already do, and they'll will have it back eventually.

So, they already do, but actually they don't? Nice job on the contradiction Einstein. Oh, wait. Einstein was a Jew. What is the name of the smartest Palestinian who ever lived? Yassir Arafat? Hmmm... that doesn't really work, does it?

According to who? Jordan is a state since 1921. That's 27 years before Israel, you idiot.

Oh. I see. If it takes less than 100 years to establish a historical "nation", then logically an historical "nation" like Palestine can cease to exist in the same amount of time, right? So Palestinians don't actually need a country named "Palestine" do they? And we don't need to call them Palestinians anymore, right? We can just call them Jordanian. Nice job on the logic, buddy. Did you just wake up? You might wanna try drinking a cup of coffee or two before commenting next time. Or, just dispense the insults without bothering to try making sense.

programmer craig said...

According to who? Jordan is a state since 1921. That's 27 years before Israel, you idiot.

Actually, it seems you pulled all of that out of your ass:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan

With the break-up of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I, the League of Nations created the French Mandate of Syria and British Mandate Palestine. Approximately 90% of the British Mandate of Palestine was east of the Jordan river and was known as "Transjordan". In 1921, the British gave semi-autonomous control of Transjordan to the future King Abdullah I of Jordan, of the Hashemite family. Abdullah I continued to rule until a Palestinian Arab assassinated him in 1951 on the steps of the Mosque of Omar. At first he ruled "Transjordan", under British supervision until after World War II. In 1946, the British requested that the United Nations approve an end to British Mandate rule in Transjordan. Following this approval, the Jordanian Parliament proclaimed King Abdullah as the first ruler of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

"Jordan" was created as an independent state in 1946.

"Transjordan" was a semi-autonomous part of the Mandate of Palestine in 1921. It was neither a state, nor was it named Jordan, at that time. Good effort though. Actually, not so much. Where did you go to school? Harvard?

Robin said...

Maybe a wee but off topic but since You mentioned the Japanese and Muslims in a single post, I thought I'd let you know about something really worth while. Every year there is a "Pilgrimage to Manzanar"-one of the most well-known Japanese interment camps. After 911, here in SoCal, NCRR LA formed the 911 committee which immediately reached out to the Arab/Muslim community in solidarity due to their own experience during WWII. This year NCRR is working with CAIR doing a series of speaking engagements at local SoCal mosques teaching those who come about the Japanese experience of internment and racism targeted at them. This is all part of a general solidarity between NCRR and SoCal Muslims and will culminate in the trip to Manzanar on April 26th. CAIR has reserved a bus which will go up and spend the night, and those of us going with NCRR will be coordinating activities together on the trip. If anyone is interested in going they should contact the SoCal CAIR office about the trip (if it isn't already full) and also about the special programs NCRR is doing at the mosques. NCRR also attended the CAIR banquet in October to read an excerpt from Yuri Kochiyama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-
kTvfEk8XDo who is a Japanese internment survivor, civil rights activist, and just happened to be the one to hold Malcom X's body in her arms when he was assassinated.

So although this post was about a historical partnership of sorts, let it be known, that there is a solidarity NOW between many in the Japanese community and Arabs/Muslims.

Hope some people reading here are interested.

programmer craig said...

So although this post was about a historical partnership of sorts, let it be known, that there is a solidarity NOW between many in the Japanese community and Arabs/Muslims.

Why? We haven't pout Arabs/Muslims in interment camps.

Robin said...

PC, if you are sincere in your question I would be happy to answer it the easiest way. A couple of weeks ago I attended Day of Remembrance in Little Tokyo (the anniversary of Executive Order 9066 signed by Roosevelt interring the Japanese.) Those who were actually interred and old enough to remember it well are dying now. NCRR (Nikkei Civil Rights and Redress) was the organization that banded together to sue the government for internment and an apology. Now they would have never thought about doing this had not a woman, Aiko Herzig-Yoshinaga through the Freedom of Information Act not uncovered crucial evidence that the government itself stated internment was not necessary. She was also there that night at the CAIR banquet. Just google her name to find out more about her.

At DOR this year, NCRR was the featured group to be honored. Kathy Masaoka who is the co-chair of NCRR stood up and explained that a few days after 911 she was listening to the radio when she heard a Muslim woman call in saying she was afraid to leave her house, she was absolutely gripped in fear of what might happen and that the government might even take steps to try to deport them or round them up. Indeed, MANY were rounded up at the time and jailed.
At that point Kathy and others called a meeting and formed the 911 committee to reach out to the Arab/Muslim community in solidarity of what they were going through because that same hysteria happened after Pearl Harbor. You must remember the hysteria then after 911 and which still goes on now, you should know, you are one of those who carry on yourself. But this partnership between the Japanese and Muslims isn't just taking place in LA, it's happening in many other cities as well.

BTW, each Japanese/American citizen who was interred was issued a check for $20,000 with the signing by President Reagan of the Civil Liberties Act of 1988.

If you would like to learn more, it's wiki, but it is well written and concise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_
American_internment

And FYI, the US government also kidnapped 2400 Japanese Peruvians FROM Peru and brought them here to the US and placed them at Crystal City, Texas concentration camp.. Some of these kidnapped Peruvians were taken out to sea on a boat and traded for our own POWs and then taken to Japan where they were NOT citizens. I know one man who was only three years old. He and his parents were kidnapped from Peru, and brought here. Then both parents were taken away to be traded. He grew up in the camp being taken care of by others. After the war, these Japanese PERUVIANS were released with no passports, no money, no ANYTHING. They also sued for redress but only got checks for $5000. Just google Japanese Latin Americans kidnapped by the US and learn more.
These were PERUVIAN Japanese.