“”Jewish Americans need to stand up and do something for there country instead of ISRAEL.”"

What the fuck?

Seriously, what the fuck?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/138784?from=rss?nav=slate

The first rule of the Intelligence Community is, “Everybody spies on everybody”.

Hell, if you don’t think Britain and the US spy on each other at all, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

It’s telling that people love to gloss over the fact that there was a WAR initiated by the Arabs to destroy Israel, a country mandated by the UN. Let’s gloss over the fact that the Palestinians at the time preferred to fight and kill than accept a Palestinian state alongside a Jewish state.

Also, throwing around a term like ethnic cleansing so carelessly shows an underlying lack of knowledge as to what the term means. The Palestinian refugee problem is a sad example of what happens when people are fed lies by those in power so that they can remain in power.

Your claim that Israel is intent on seizing more territory is laughable. They gave back the Sinai and offered the Golan back to Syria in exchange for peace after the war. What do you think the Syrians said?

And your take on what prompted the 1967 war is so misinformed and lacking in fundamental facts that it’s not even worth addressing. But if it helps you sleep better at night, or if it makes you more well-liked by your activist friends, then that’s your perogative.

Peace.

You’ve missed a couple of points….

a) European settlers with colonial powers’ help get another people’s land for an exclusive religious-based state, sparking ethnic cleansing of the native inhabitants to facilitate it.

b) In 1956, that state launched an unprovoked war alongside two colonial powers to seize control of a waterway over a neighbouring country’s legitimate claims.

c) In 1967, that state launches a war to seize more territory.

Now we can come to point 1).

As you were.

Reason #214 the US should stop supporting Israel. We wouldn’t have this problem otherwise. Let’s just keep Al Qaeda happy and live in saftey.

So let me get this straight. Arab countries attack Israel hoping to DESTROY it. The United States, an ally of Israel, helps Israel out. Arab countries become enraged and begin an oil embargo.

So…
1) Arabs attack
2) US helps Israel and USSR helps Arabs.
3) Israel wins
4) Arabs get mad and embargo ensues.

Conclusion? Let’s do whatever we can to keep the Arabs happy because they have oil. How dare the United States make Arab countries mad and jealous by helping Israel! Next time, lets just let the Arabs do what they set out to do.

“And when the Islamic radicals speak of U.S. support of Israel as a prime reason for their hatred of the United States, we should listen.”

Why? Islamic radicals are crazed terrorists, are they not? Their grievances, often contrived and flamed through the use of propoganda, should in no way dictate United States foreign policy. Indeed, that is the goal of terrorism.

Articles such as the one above tend to ignore the possibility that the United States supports Israel precisely because it has shared interests in the region.

Asserting that Iran poses no threat to Israel is surprising, to say the least. Iran’s connections to terror organizations are well-known, and one can turn on the TV any day of the week to see the latest round of venom sprouting from Iran’s favorite “spokesman.” Does this mean that attacking Iran is justified and should be done? Of course not. But it also does not mean that those who DO seek to attack Iran are motivated wholly by reasons attributed to Israel.

It’s interesting that many individuals lambast the United States for being an all-powerful, oil hungry, and blood thirsty country that will do whatever it takes to aggregate power. Yet those same individuals will assert that the United States is a puppet whose foreign policy is driven by the pro-Israel lobby, whose pressure it can’t handle.

“Not only do Israel’s foreign policy objectives not coincide with American interests, they actively hurt them. “

Says when do opinions become facts?

This rambling diatribe is a sloppy excuse for an intelligent discussion on the Middle East.