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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2008/08/i-prefer-raghead.html/comment-page-1#comment-107534</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In America, we need to fight their demands while we still can because once they get their foot in the door, they start pushing.  At first they are civil and as they grow larger in population to where they are about 10% or so, they go off on riots over any little thing.  I think this way because of several news articles just recently.  For example, JihadWatch, AtlasShrugged.  Here&#039;s one about Spain with an informative comment at the end: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-yakima/hurt-feelings-over-name-of-spanish-disco-muslims-outraged&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-yakima/hu...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In America, we need to fight their demands while we still can because once they get their foot in the door, they start pushing.  At first they are civil and as they grow larger in population to where they are about 10% or so, they go off on riots over any little thing.  I think this way because of several news articles just recently.  For example, JihadWatch, AtlasShrugged.  Here&#039;s one about Spain with an informative comment at the end: <a href="http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-yakima/hurt-feelings-over-name-of-spanish-disco-muslims-outraged" target="_blank">http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-yakima/hu&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: chxyfbmoazi</title>
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		<dc:creator>chxyfbmoazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: argolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>argolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s fine for CAIR to take issue with the title. Many African Americans take issue with members of their community using the word n----r. Many feminists take issue with other feminists using &quot;bitch.&quot; It  might be an attempt of reclamation or humor, sure. But making a slur part of the mainstream discourse is not a cut and dry issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fine for CAIR to take issue with the title. Many African Americans take issue with members of their community using the word n&#8212;-r. Many feminists take issue with other feminists using &#8220;bitch.&#8221; It  might be an attempt of reclamation or humor, sure. But making a slur part of the mainstream discourse is not a cut and dry issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalash</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2008/08/i-prefer-raghead.html/comment-page-1#comment-5793</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer raghead because it sounds better (and it&#039;s more accurate).  But I was trying to show that while there are some people taking it seriously, CAIR&#039;s complaint is really something to joke about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again, the change was made (&#039;To be fair&#039; became &#039;In this instance&#039;) for purposes of clarity.  The original sentence was being misunderstood (case in point that anyone would think I was being condescending).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;bonty- you know very little about me or my family... if you knew more I think you&#039;d be singing a different tune.  I guess that doesn&#039;t really matter though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer raghead because it sounds better (and it&#8217;s more accurate).  But I was trying to show that while there are some people taking it seriously, CAIR&#8217;s complaint is really something to joke about.</p>
<p>Again, the change was made (&#8216;To be fair&#8217; became &#8216;In this instance&#8217;) for purposes of clarity.  The original sentence was being misunderstood (case in point that anyone would think I was being condescending).</p>
<p>bonty- you know very little about me or my family&#8230; if you knew more I think you&#8217;d be singing a different tune.  I guess that doesn&#8217;t really matter though.</p>
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		<title>By: programmer craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>programmer craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bonty,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;It&#039;s the title that this debate centers on. The title is ironic. She was called a towelhead in school and teased by her classmates for being Arab. To me, that&#039;s the most interesting part of all of this -- the title and the fight over it speaks to the lack of understanding of identity constructions in a country living under white supremacy.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, only whites call Arabs &quot;towelhead&quot;, eh? Or is it more likely that it is only politically correct to accuse whites and whites only of racism? Aren&#039;t you engaging in the same kind of shallow surface analysis that you complain about? Whites are probably the least racist ethnic group in the United States. You don&#039;t have to look very closely to see the truth of that. Hang out at any ethnically mixed high school for a day or two. And be sure to find out what people are really saying in Spanish, Cantonese, Arabic or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bonty,</p>
<p><i>It&#8217;s the title that this debate centers on. The title is ironic. She was called a towelhead in school and teased by her classmates for being Arab. To me, that&#8217;s the most interesting part of all of this &#8212; the title and the fight over it speaks to the lack of understanding of identity constructions in a country living under white supremacy.</i></p>
<p>So, only whites call Arabs &#8220;towelhead&#8221;, eh? Or is it more likely that it is only politically correct to accuse whites and whites only of racism? Aren&#8217;t you engaging in the same kind of shallow surface analysis that you complain about? Whites are probably the least racist ethnic group in the United States. You don&#8217;t have to look very closely to see the truth of that. Hang out at any ethnically mixed high school for a day or two. And be sure to find out what people are really saying in Spanish, Cantonese, Arabic or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good rule - though I really don&#039;t think the minor changes here are worth all the fuss. Just because someone throws a fit over a change doesn&#039;t mean it actually matters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only change that has been brought to light is laid out by Bonty above in the comments, 8/28/08 4:46:00 PDT - hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good rule &#8211; though I really don&#8217;t think the minor changes here are worth all the fuss. Just because someone throws a fit over a change doesn&#8217;t mean it actually matters.</p>
<p>The only change that has been brought to light is laid out by Bonty above in the comments, 8/28/08 4:46:00 PDT &#8211; hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody&#039;s talking about the same post anymore because the post changed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There should be a rule that bloggers follow for some common courtesy: please don&#039;t change or modify a post if people have already commented on those things you want to change. (In other words, change those things you wish you hadn&#039;t written). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you&#039;re going to make such major changes (if they&#039;ve been referenced and debated, they are major), then please note it somewhere on the post as a courtesy. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can&#039;t follow anything that has just been said here in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody&#8217;s talking about the same post anymore because the post changed. </p>
<p>There should be a rule that bloggers follow for some common courtesy: please don&#8217;t change or modify a post if people have already commented on those things you want to change. (In other words, change those things you wish you hadn&#8217;t written). </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to make such major changes (if they&#8217;ve been referenced and debated, they are major), then please note it somewhere on the post as a courtesy. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t follow anything that has just been said here in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: pali-american</title>
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		<dc:creator>pali-american</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why you prefer &quot;raghead&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you prefer &#8220;raghead&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting to feel like we&#039;re not even referencing the same post anymore, Bonty. What about the author&#039;s indication that he made this change because he thought it gave the wrong impression makes youthink that he was making a &quot;dramatic shift&quot; in tone, or even trying to be balanced? I think you&#039;re hung up on this minor change because it lets you paint the post as endorsing the CAIR view, a view which any fair reader would not take away given that the poster says multiple times that he doesn&#039;t see any reason to be outraged.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You may not have noticed, but it isn&#039;t me that&#039;s hung up on the author&#039;s identity - it was you. I only discussed it because I thought it was amusing that you would criticize the post for speculating about how the author&#039;s experiences with her father might affect her attitude toward Arabs, and then do some armchair psychology of your own about bi-racial children. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I certainly agree that the debate is about the title, which is why I think it&#039;s so funny that you keep pressing this irony issue - the poster obviously wasn&#039;t offended by the title. His point, which perhaps you didn&#039;t grasp, was that the controversy over the title demonstrates the degree to which Arab Americans have not been assimilated into our culture, and thus are more likely to be viewed externally, as the subject of inquiry, as opposed to acting internally as creators of their own unique story. Hence the post&#039;s reference to the casting of an Indian-American actress to play the protagonist: this would be much less likely to happen if Arabs had a voice in Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re reading the tea leaves even more when you say that the post was being nationalistic, or even uninteresting, in discussing the author&#039;s half-Arab background. The point was obviously not to say that a half-Arab can&#039;t comment meaningfully. It was to note, descriptively, that such a person faces the added difficulty of having even less immersion in an alien culture, and might have more difficulty forming a view about that culture.  I find that to be quite an interesting point, and I think you&#039;re reading the tea leaves to facilitate your idea that somehow, the post is endorsing the view that half-Arabs (or half-Anythings) have nothing to contribute.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It may be fun to adopt an extreme, unreasonable interpretation of one phrase in a post and proceed to use it to lambast the whole thing as &quot;MSNBC&quot;. Unfortunately, it&#039;s not productive for anyone else actually trying, in good faith, to understand the point of the post. No big deal though...perhaps we&#039;ll agree the next time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to feel like we&#8217;re not even referencing the same post anymore, Bonty. What about the author&#8217;s indication that he made this change because he thought it gave the wrong impression makes youthink that he was making a &#8220;dramatic shift&#8221; in tone, or even trying to be balanced? I think you&#8217;re hung up on this minor change because it lets you paint the post as endorsing the CAIR view, a view which any fair reader would not take away given that the poster says multiple times that he doesn&#8217;t see any reason to be outraged.</p>
<p>You may not have noticed, but it isn&#8217;t me that&#8217;s hung up on the author&#8217;s identity &#8211; it was you. I only discussed it because I thought it was amusing that you would criticize the post for speculating about how the author&#8217;s experiences with her father might affect her attitude toward Arabs, and then do some armchair psychology of your own about bi-racial children. </p>
<p>I certainly agree that the debate is about the title, which is why I think it&#8217;s so funny that you keep pressing this irony issue &#8211; the poster obviously wasn&#8217;t offended by the title. His point, which perhaps you didn&#8217;t grasp, was that the controversy over the title demonstrates the degree to which Arab Americans have not been assimilated into our culture, and thus are more likely to be viewed externally, as the subject of inquiry, as opposed to acting internally as creators of their own unique story. Hence the post&#8217;s reference to the casting of an Indian-American actress to play the protagonist: this would be much less likely to happen if Arabs had a voice in Hollywood.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re reading the tea leaves even more when you say that the post was being nationalistic, or even uninteresting, in discussing the author&#8217;s half-Arab background. The point was obviously not to say that a half-Arab can&#8217;t comment meaningfully. It was to note, descriptively, that such a person faces the added difficulty of having even less immersion in an alien culture, and might have more difficulty forming a view about that culture.  I find that to be quite an interesting point, and I think you&#8217;re reading the tea leaves to facilitate your idea that somehow, the post is endorsing the view that half-Arabs (or half-Anythings) have nothing to contribute.</p>
<p>It may be fun to adopt an extreme, unreasonable interpretation of one phrase in a post and proceed to use it to lambast the whole thing as &#8220;MSNBC&#8221;. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s not productive for anyone else actually trying, in good faith, to understand the point of the post. No big deal though&#8230;perhaps we&#8217;ll agree the next time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would argue that the edit was not only a &quot;clarification&quot; in language as you say, but a dramatic shift in tone, which I initially found condescending. Now it seems he changed it to sound &quot;balanced&quot; and even &quot;thoughtful&quot; as you say -- thoughtful it was certainly not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He was writing about something that he knew nothing about. Simply reporting MSNBC or Fox News style, which is always a waste of time to listen to, not in the very least because of the lack of any analysis and inability to say anything by the time we&#039;re all done.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t understand why you&#039;re hung up on the author&#039;s upbringing, which seems to be trying to say that she has no credibility on having Arab identity. Many Arabs in the U.S. were often seen as &quot;white&quot; and were labeled as such until 9-11 when the difference was constructed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s the title that this debate centers on. The title is ironic. She was called a towelhead in school and teased by her classmates for being Arab. To me, that&#039;s the most interesting part of all of this -- the title and the fight over it speaks to the lack of understanding of identity constructions in a country living under white supremacy. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This post (and especially in its original form) was not only boring but uninteresting. Again -- MSNBC-style. Zero analysis along with that Liberal need to be &quot;balanced&quot; (eg. &quot;to be fair.... she&#039;s only half-Egyptian&quot;) What does that have to do with anything? That&#039;s where the author thought the debate should revolve? On what counts as Arab? On what counts as a category? Hasn&#039;t that been the overarching problem all along? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me we need to get over this type of thinking ourselves before asking others to do it. Many &quot;Arabs&quot; didn&#039;t seem to have a problem with these sortings when they thought of themselves as white. I would argue that many of us still don&#039;t care about other injustices that have nothing to do with Arabs, Islam, or the Middle East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would argue that the edit was not only a &#8220;clarification&#8221; in language as you say, but a dramatic shift in tone, which I initially found condescending. Now it seems he changed it to sound &#8220;balanced&#8221; and even &#8220;thoughtful&#8221; as you say &#8212; thoughtful it was certainly not.</p>
<p>He was writing about something that he knew nothing about. Simply reporting MSNBC or Fox News style, which is always a waste of time to listen to, not in the very least because of the lack of any analysis and inability to say anything by the time we&#8217;re all done.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you&#8217;re hung up on the author&#8217;s upbringing, which seems to be trying to say that she has no credibility on having Arab identity. Many Arabs in the U.S. were often seen as &#8220;white&#8221; and were labeled as such until 9-11 when the difference was constructed. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the title that this debate centers on. The title is ironic. She was called a towelhead in school and teased by her classmates for being Arab. To me, that&#8217;s the most interesting part of all of this &#8212; the title and the fight over it speaks to the lack of understanding of identity constructions in a country living under white supremacy. </p>
<p>This post (and especially in its original form) was not only boring but uninteresting. Again &#8212; MSNBC-style. Zero analysis along with that Liberal need to be &#8220;balanced&#8221; (eg. &#8220;to be fair&#8230;. she&#8217;s only half-Egyptian&#8221;) What does that have to do with anything? That&#8217;s where the author thought the debate should revolve? On what counts as Arab? On what counts as a category? Hasn&#8217;t that been the overarching problem all along? </p>
<p>It seems to me we need to get over this type of thinking ourselves before asking others to do it. Many &#8220;Arabs&#8221; didn&#8217;t seem to have a problem with these sortings when they thought of themselves as white. I would argue that many of us still don&#8217;t care about other injustices that have nothing to do with Arabs, Islam, or the Middle East.</p>
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