This Just keeps getting Better and Better… Jeeez –
[SOURCE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7632750.stm (BBC World; 09.24.2008)

“Analysts say Republicans want to bolster Sarah Palin’s foreign policy credentials ahead of a debate with her Democratic counterpart Joe Biden.”

‘Right questions’

“Mrs Palin, the running-mate to presidential candidate John McCain, held brief meetings with Afghan President Hamid Karzai and Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.”

“Mr Karzai and Mrs Palin discussed security problems in Afghanistan, including cross-border insurgencies.”

“Mr Karzai later said; ‘She had asked the right questions on Afghanistan.’”
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So what’s next: What’s it like to interview with an All American Premier Hockey Mom?

“So, are you rooting for the Palestine Palikar’s, or the Israel Zionuts, Mrs Palin?”

Paranoia isn’t very becoming, any moreso than when the Little Green Footballs crowd thinks anyone inconvenient in their debates is an “Islamist in disguise”. I take everyone here at their word about their origins unless I have a very good reason not to, and that seems the best approach to go for constructive debate.

Ignore these provocations. Clearly, there are Zionuts posing as Palestinians. I think this is a fair point.

I think the maps debate is reconcilable since Diana’s first-hand experience — which no one in the comments section can compare too — is that the official negotiation maps with the concrete details in various proposals were kept to one side.

My understanding is not that the Palestinians did not have maps, they did not have access to THE maps — the ones that were the subject of negotiations.

Maps, as Benedict Anderson wrote, anticipated reality. They’re a model, in a sense, and it’s clear Israel dictated that model, along with the rest of the process.

Sam, Mohammad, Diana, is this wrong?

Will

I’m only dignifying what you wrote with a response because you seem very passionate about Palestine, a trait we share.

For your information, I do live in Palestine. I was born in a refugee camp in the Gaza Strip. Yeah I have picked olives before in my life. I try to help out when I hear people I know picking their olives, because my family’s olives are on land confiscated by Israel for a settlement.

Funny you ask if I’ve ever been to a checkpoint. I have not been able to leave Ramallah for almost three years now because of them. If you’ve ever visited Palestine, then you would have had more freedom of movement than I.

Had you actually bothered to read between the lines, you would have realized that we were criticizing the PLO for doing such a terrible job and NEGLECTING the importance of maps. If reading between the lines is too difficult for you, then you should have read my other posts before attacking me; my disdain and resentment towards the PLO and PA is well documented and clear.

Finally, a word of note. There are many, many people around the world extremely dedicated to the Palestinian cause who are not Palestinian. Implying that only ‘real Palestinians’ can take part in this struggle is stupid and offensive.

Now, if you have something constructive to say, then please do so. We have no problem with real criticism, but that is different from insulting us based on unfounded assumptions-especially when a casual read of what we write nullifies a lot of what you’re throwing at us.

Listening to this as I go through Morning events… “Daddy, turn it Down !!”

I kinda like to be President
So I can show how you your money’s spent…

I know you workin for the CIA
They wouldn’t have ya’ in the MAFIA !!

WCWBFwww = Why can’t we be friends… whoo whoo whooooo….

Potatos? Olives? Let’s do Lunch!!

The point was before Oslo the Isreali and Palestinians were using the same Ottomon maps of every village and landmark. After Oslo the Israelis made their own maps of what were villages, agricultural land and what were military zones. Then when Palestinians tried to build new buildings they would apply for permit to Israelis and get rejected without explanation, because on Israeli maps this was a closed military zone even though on Palestinian map it was still inside the recognized village boundaries.

Honestly with all the fucking idiots you guys have here… it’s embarassing. Are any of you actually palestinians? Did any of you actually grow up there? Have any of you picked a single olive in your pampered lives? embarassing

What an indicative example of how one can take a conspiracy and run with it into paranoia-ville