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Just a little bit more than an hour ago, the Israelis bombed the central fruit market in Gaza City, and we had a mass influx of about 50 injured and between 10 and 15 killed. At the same time, they bombed an apartment house with children playing on the roof, and we had a lot of children also. It’s really like a scene from Dante’s Inferno. It’s like hell here now. They’ve been bombing all night, close to 500 people have been killed, and the number of casualties is getting to two and a half thousand of which 50% are children and women.
Are your hospitals reaching capacity? Can you deal with these people?
We have been doing surgery around the clock. I’ve just talked to one of my colleagues in the ICU who has not slept for three days. The hospital is completely overcrowded, we are running six, seven hours.
There are injuries you just don’t want to see in this world. There are children coming in with open abdomens and legs cut off. We just had a child.. we had to amputate both the legs and the arm. And the only crime they have done is being civilians, the Palestinians, living in Gaza. The relief now is not more doctors and more drugs, the relief now is to stop the bombing immediately. This cannot go on. It’s a disaster.
You’ve talked about the civilians, the women, the children, the men who are not involved in this, but are you also getting casualties that are Hamas fighters?
To be honest, we came on New Year’s Eve in the morning, I’ve seen ONE military person among the tens, I mean, the hundreds that we have seen and treated. So anybody who tries to portray this as sort of a clean war against another army are lying. This is an all out war against the civilian Palestinian population in Gaza, and we can prove that with the numbers.
And you have to remember, the average age of the Gaza inhabitants is 17 years. It’s a very young population, and 80% are living below the poverty limit of the UN. So this is a poor and very young people, and they are able to escape absolutely nowhere because they cannot flee like other populations can in wartime, because they are fenced in and they are in a cage. So they are bombing one and a half million people in a cage. And young people, poor people, and you know, you cannot separate between the civilians and the fighters in such a situation.
Tarboush Tip: Diana
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Fortunately, the heroic lions of Hamas don’t let little things like mounting civilian casualties among their own people sway their decisions about how to proceed.
Any less heroic military force would make it clear that they do not operate in certain areas, so that combat would not take place there. But Hamas knows that all Palestinians want to participate in combat, if only as collateral damage.
A less cunning military force might think the rockets were doing more harm than good, and stop them. Not Hamas. They know that every rocket launched at Israeli civilians brings them one step closer to their own peaceful state.
Posted by Roy | January 6, 2009, 5:34 amActually, Roy – this morning, the United Nations set up a shelter base at a local school. Israel fired at it. No Hamas near by. I don’t think you paid close attention to the article.
My personal analysis – Israel wouldn’t want to stop the home-made rockets. It doesn’t cause much damage, apart from menial fear and keeps the momentum of war going. Israel’s only goal is to bring mayhem into Gaza so that Gazans would think twice about ever supporting Hamas. Thing is, the civilian population sees itself as the target, which only makes the support for Hamas and their “resistance” all the more obvious.
Posted by Anonymous | January 6, 2009, 6:28 amThis doctor is really the man! His words are strong, but the look on his face when he speaks is even better.
Posted by Kalash | January 6, 2009, 10:15 amAnonymous,
Israel also suffered some “friendly fire” casualties. Do you think they planned them, or that they make mistakes in identifying targets?
Israel wouldn’t attack any schools if they didn’t think Hamas used schools, mosques, civilian homes, etc., for weapons caching and for attacking from.
If your analysis is right (and I don’t think it is), then Hamas could thwart Israel by stopping the rockets and foreswearing their use. For some reason that nobody can explain, they won’t do that.
They’re probably collaborators.
Posted by Roy | January 6, 2009, 10:48 am“Israel wouldn’t attack any schools if they didn’t think Hamas used schools, mosques, civilian homes, etc., for weapons caching and for attacking from.”
Yet there has been no proof that all the schools, mosques, civilians homes, hospitals, orphanages, water treatment facilities, wells, sewage treatment facilities, power lines, mobile phone towers etc, have been used to store weapons.
Maybe Israel should allow some reporters into the strip to verify their claims. Oh yea.. they banned all journalists from the strip.
“then Hamas could thwart Israel by stopping the rockets and foreswearing their use. For some reason that nobody can explain, they won’t do that.”
Its been explained to you multiple times Roy, the fact that you still don’t get it is amazing.
Blockade + Occupation + F-16 Airstrikes etc.
This however, does not mean that I agree with indiscriminate rocket fire from Hamas or Islamic Jihad. End the blockade, end the occupation = end to the rocket fire that the Israeli’s fear so much. Hamas see’s it as a bargaining chip, on the negotiating table.
Posted by Super Sayyin | January 6, 2009, 12:17 pmYet there has been no proof that all the schools, mosques, civilians homes, hospitals, orphanages, water treatment facilities, wells, sewage treatment facilities, power lines, mobile phone towers etc, have been used to store weapons.
So it’s an open question. You seem to treat that as proof that Israel is engaging in genocide (albeit the least-efficient genocide ever attempted).
Its been explained to you multiple times Roy
You’re a lying sack. No one has ever explained why they can’t stop the rockets, nor what the rockets accomplish.
This however, does not mean that I agree with indiscriminate rocket fire from Hamas or Islamic Jihad.
Wow, a pretty bold stance, there, not to agree with it. You don’t condemn it. You don’t call for it to stop. But you don’t agree with it.
Do you also “not agree” with Palestinian children getting killed in a war, or do you feel more strongly about that?
Posted by Roy | January 6, 2009, 12:43 pm“So this is a poor and very young people, and they are able to escape absolutely nowhere because they cannot flee like other populations can in wartime, because they are fenced in and they are in a cage. So they are bombing one and a half million people in a cage. And young people, poor people, and you know, you cannot separate between the civilians and the fighters in such a situation.”
You would think that the civilians wouldn’t want to support a group that uses them as human shields, then, would you? You would think that they wouldn’t train their children in elementary school to hate and kill Jews, wouldn’t you? You’d think that they wouldn’t want to let gunmen use their amublances for transportation and their schools and hospitals as firing bases, wouldn’t you?
The Israelis who complain about continued hostility from Palestinians need to repudiate the settlement movement and the hardliners who refuse to accommodate the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinians. The Palestinians who complain about continued hostility from Israelis need to repudiate the violent extremists who have taken control of their government and territory. Until the two peoples deal with their own internal political problems, violent tragedies like what is happening in Gaza City — and what happened in Sderot, and Eilat, and Dimona — will continue.
If Hamas pledged to end all violent attacks on Israeli territory immediately and for the indefinite future, Israel would have no choice but to stop its attack. However, Hamas can’t do that, because it cannot recognize that Israel has any legitimate territory. Its charter forbids accepting anything less than the utter destruction of Israel. So is it hypocritical, at best, for the citizens of Hamas-run Gaza to complain about Israeli aggression. The Israelis did not just wake up one day and randomly choose Gaza as a place to aim its weapons.
Posted by Rocket88 | January 6, 2009, 1:48 pm“Israel wouldn’t attack any schools if they didn’t think Hamas used schools, mosques, civilian homes, etc., for weapons caching and for attacking from.”
So what if they can PROVE Hamas used these places? And then bomb them knowing, or at least having a good idea, that there are civilians there. And you, Roy, are fine with this? I think this is a really depraved position to take – just brutal, uncivilized, ugly. And just so you know, I don’t support any attacks by any Palestinian groups that harm civilians anywhere.
Posted by alfannaan | January 6, 2009, 5:08 pmAlf, so if Israel knows that a mosque is full of weapons, they shouldn’t bomb it because there might be civilians inside?
Is this your position?
And no, of course, you don’t support Hamas. You just “understand” Hamas.
Posted by Anonymous | January 6, 2009, 5:24 pmAnd you, Roy, are fine with this? I think this is a really depraved position to take – just brutal, uncivilized, ugly.
No, I’m not fine with it. I think that Hamas bears the responsibility for it. They are, as you say, brutal, uncivilized, ugly.
And Kabobfest’s heroes.
Posted by Roy | January 7, 2009, 10:18 amAnd you, Roy, are fine with this? I think this is a really depraved position to take – just brutal, uncivilized, ugly.
No, I’m not fine with it. I think that Hamas bears the responsibility for it. They are, as you say, brutal, uncivilized, ugly.
And Kabobfest’s heroes.
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As I have clearly said, I consider any and all of the killing of civilians brutal and uncalled for, regardless of who does it, how they do it, or how many victims.
What you seem to be confirming is that you think it is justified for the IDF to kill all those civilians if they say, or even prove, that a Hamas rocket was launched from the location. Again, I consider this a depraved position to hold. And this argument that ‘it’s your fault I hit you because you made me mad’ is infantile.
Posted by alfannaan | January 7, 2009, 2:39 pmMaybe a little context on this Norwegian shill might help:
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x;_outlet=35&x;_article=1580
http://olehgirl.com/?p=1736
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32373_Norwegian_Doctor_in_Gaza_Supported_9-11_Attacks/comments/#ctop
This guy has been peddling hate of Jews for years, has stated he would not treat an injured Israeli or American and supported the 9/11 attacks.
What real hero!
Posted by Yisro | January 8, 2009, 6:43 amAnd this argument that ‘it’s your fault I hit you because you made me mad’ is infantile.
That’s not my argument. I’m sorry you can’t read.
You’re living in a dreamworld if you think that a war can be fought without any collateral damage. And you’re part of the problem if you think that using civilians as shields is acceptable (you don’t condemn Hamas for doing it).
And yes, deliberately conducting your operations around civilians and in civilian structures in the hopes that Israael won’t hit them is using them as shields.
Posted by Roy | January 8, 2009, 7:25 amPalestinian muslims crime history
In 1920s-30s, Palestinian Muslims committed massacre of Jews in Jewish land of Palestine murdering thousands of children and civilians. The murder was organized by the founder and supreme leader of the Arab Higher Committee, Haj Amin al Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, and supported by British Administration of Palestine. The massacre was, in reality, the Holocaust committed by Palestinian Arabs in compliance with Islamic Koran which demand killing Christians and Jews.
Haj Amin was close friend of Hitler. In 1941, Haj Amin came to Berlin and visited Hitler. He brought the Holocaust idea to Hitler. In 1943, Amin organized Bosnian Muslim battalions in Croatia comprising some twenty thousand men. The battalions were put in Waffen-SS units, fought Yugoslav partisans in Bosnia; thousands of Serbs, Roma (‘Gypsies’) and Jews hunted down by Haj Amin’s SS troops were killed by those same troops, or they were sent to the Islamic death camp Jasenovac. After the WWII, the International tribunal declared Haj Amin was crime criminal; however, he escaped prosecution, fled to Egypt and then Palestine where he organized Fatah. After his death in 1974, Arafat, who was Haj Amin lieutenant, became Fatah commander. He organized PLO. PLO and Fatah committed numerous murders around the world killing American and European Christian and Jews.
The 1960s
–December 26, 1968 –two Palestinian gunmen traveled from Beirut to Athens, and attacked an El Al jet and killed one. On December 28,1968, Israel troops landed in Beirut, Lebanon and destroyed 13 civilian aircraft at Beirut International Airport.
The assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, a United States Senator and brother of assassinated President John F. Kennedy, took place shortly after midnight on June 5, 1968. He was killed following celebrations of his successful campaign in the Californian primary elections while seeking the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. The perpetrator was a twenty-four year old Palestinian immigrant named Sirhan Sirhan.
The 1970s
–May 8, 1970: Three Palestinian gunmen crossed the Lebanese border into the agricultural community of Avivim and ambushed the local school bus, killing nine children and three adults, and wounding 19 other children.
–September 4, 1972: Munich Olympic’s Massacre–Members of “Black September,” a PLO offshoot, attacked the Israeli Olympic team in their dormitory at the 1972 Munich Olympic Games in Germany. As a result of the hostage-taking and the bungled attempt by the Germans to rescue the prisoners, eleven Israeli athletes and one German policman were killed. This attack prompted Israel to launch “Operation Wrath of God” and “Operation Spring of Youth.” See below for details.
–Beginning in the Fall of 1972: Israel’s launched “Operation Wrath of God” to track down and kill members of the PLO involved in the Munich attack. This operation continued for several years and resulted in the assassinations of several members of the PLO around the world.
–March 1, 1973: Eight members of Black September took over the Saudi Arabian embassy in Khartoum, Sudan. Among the hostages were two American diplomats, Ambassador Cleo Noel, and Deputy Ambassador George Curtis Moore. Both Americans and Belgian diplomat, Guy Eid were killed.
– April 11, 1974: three guerillas of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), infiltrated the Israeli settlement of Kiryat Shmona from Lebanon, killing eighteen residents of an apartment building, including nine children. The attackers died in battle with Israeli troops.
–May 15, 1974: Fighters of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) entered the Israeli border town of Ma’alot from Lebanon, killed five adults and seizing hostages in a school building. All of the attackers died in battle with Israeli forces, but not before they killed 21 of the school’s students.
–June 27-July 4, 1976: “Operation Entebbe”: On June 27, an Air France flight from Tel Aviv was hijacked by four terrorists, two from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine — External Operations (PFLP-EO) and two from the German terrorst group, “Revolutionäre Zellen.” The plane eventually ended up at Entebbe Airport in Uganda, which was then ruled by dictator Idi Amin. Amin was friendly to the Palestinian cause, and aided the terrorists. Once on the ground, three more Palestininans joined the hijackers. Demands were made for the release of prisoners held by Israel.
Israel responded with a commando raid on the night of July3/July 4. Around 100 Israeli troops in four military transport planes landed at night and rescued the hostages. As a result of the rescue operation,100 of the 103 hostages were freed. Three hostages died. One Israeli soldier died, while 45 Ugandan soldiers were killed eleven Ugandan Army Air Force fighter planes were destroyed on the ground to prevent them from following the Israeli air planes carrying the rescued hostages and the troops.
–March 5,1975: A force of eight PLO fighters sailed from to Tel Aviv by sea from Lebanon. Once inside Israel, they entered the Savoy Hotel, and took dozens of hostages. In the ensuing battle for the hotel, seven of the eight Palestinians and three Israeli troops died, while eight civilians were killed and 19 wounded.
– March 11, 1978: Eight Fatah guerillas entered Israel from Lebanon. After killing an American tourist on the beach, the guerillas hijacked a bus on the coastal road near Haifa. In the ensuing bus chase and battle, six Palestinian guerillas and 35 of the passengers died. Seventy-One civilians were wounded. Israel’s response to this “Coastal Road Massacre” was to launch a full-scale invasion of South Lebanon in order to root out the PLO forces based there.
The 1980s
July 27, 1980: Attack on Jewish school in Antwerp, Belgium by terrorists associated with the Palestinian Abu Nidal.
July 27, 1980: Abu Nidal claimed responsibility for the murder of an Israeli commercial attachee in Brussels, Belgium.
May 1, 1981: Assassination of Heinz Nittel in Vienna, Austria by Abu Nidal’s forces. Nittel was President of the Austrian-Israeli Friendship Association.
June 3, 1982: Attempted assassination in London of Israeli Ambassador to the United Kingdom, Shlomo Argov. Israel accused the PLO of the attack, and the Argov attack was one of the incidents which provoked the Israeli invasion of Lebanon on June 6, 1982 called “Operation Peace in Galilee. Argov survived the attack, but was permanently disabled.
September 25, 1985: Three Israeli civilians were killed on their yacht off the coast of Larnaca, Cyprus by commandoes of al-Fatah’s elite “Force 17.”
-Oct. 7, 1985: The hijacking of the passenger cruise ship Achille Lauro. Members of the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), led by Abu Abbas, killed Jewish American tourist Leon Klinghoffer. After several days, the hijackers agreed to a deal in which they would release the ship in return for a flight to Tunisia. The Egyptian airliner carrying the hijackers was intercepted by U.S. Navy fighter planes on Oct. 10 and forced it to land at a military base in Italy, where the terrorists were arrested by Italian authorities.
-December 27, 1985: Rome/Vienna Airport Attacks–Abu Nidal’s Fatah – the Revolutionary Council (FRC) staged two attacks in Europe which killed 18 civilians and wounded 140. The terrorists attacked passengers at airports in Rome and Vienna. The FRC claimed these attacks were in response to the October 1st Israeli air raid on Tunis.
September 6 1986 – Istanbul, Turkey
Abu Nidal organization attacks the Neveh Shalom synagogue, killing 22 people.
August 1988 – Haifa: 25 wounded in a grenade attack at the Haifa mall.
July 6 1989 – Tel Aviv: 14 killed when a terrorist steered a bus into a ravine off the Jerusalem-Tel Aviv highway.
The 2000s
In 2002, 5,301 terrorist attacks were perpetrated against Israeli targets, in which 451 Israeli were murdered.
In 20
03, 3,838 terrorist attacks were perpetrated against Israeli targets, in which 213 Israelis were murdered.
In 2005, 2,990 terrorist attacks were perpetrated against Israeli targets.
From 2000 to 2004, Hamas was responsible for killing nearly 400 Israelis and wounding more than 2,000 in 425 attacks, according to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
From 2001 through 2008, Hamas launched more than 5,000 Qassam rockets and 2,500 mortar attacks against Israeli targets.
According to CNN, Hamas uses civilian infrastructure, including schools, houses, kindergarten facilities, hospitals, for storing and launching rockets and other ammunition, placing training camps inside populated areas in violation of Geneva Convention and international law.
The above is only a minuscule part of Palestinian muslims criminal and murderous history; however, it is more than enough to conclude that:
Islamofascist organizations, PLO, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Popular Front of Liberation of Palestine, Fatah etc., must be totally exterminated to last member; other Palestinian muslims must be kicked out of Israel land of Palestine back to the countries of their origin.
Mark Bernadiner, PH.D.
Texas
Posted by Anonymous | January 9, 2009, 8:16 amNations and governments based on the delusional ideas of master races and chosen peoples are going to lead to the same dehumanization of humanity.
No amount of abuse and propaganda can cover up this simple fact.
The U.S. needs to stop bankrolling this militarized gangster state and find ways to function without its preoccupations with the oilfields of the Mideast.
Posted by Mark | January 9, 2009, 2:18 pmGilbert is not just an ordinary doctor. He is a political activist and member of the Norwegian Maoist ‘Red’ party. Not only is he viscerally hostile to Israel and a long-standing activist in the Palestinian ‘solidarity’ movement, but he even supported the 9/11 attacks.
Gilbert’s Wikipedia entry contains the following (translated from Norwegian):
Shortly after the attack on the World Trade Center in the United States in September 2001 stirred the excitement when Gilbert defended oppressed moral right to attack the United States. ‘If the U.S. government has a legitimate right to bomb and kill civilians in Iraq, they have also suppressed a moral right to attack the United States with the weapons they had to create. Dead civilians are the same whether they are Americans, Palestinians or Iraqis.’ On the direct question whether he supported the terrorist attacks on the United States, Gilbert said: ‘Terror is a bad weapon, but the answer is yes, within the context I have mentioned.’
nalini
Posted by Danny | January 13, 2009, 11:10 amFirst knew of Dr. Gilbert from a BBC interview a few days ago. Even the reporter was startled by Gilbert’s frankness and disgust at IDF ferocity and tactics. Rare to see and hear this.
Personally, have no sympathy with Israel and their military state and see Hamas as resistance fighters as opposed to ‘terrorists’; they are not doing anything I would not do myself if my land were occupied (as in France/Belgium/Holland during WW2).
Posted by French Resistance | January 13, 2009, 3:53 pm