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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abbas is a typical corrupted thug.</description>
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		<title>By: RISKABILITY</title>
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		<dc:creator>RISKABILITY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the last presidential election season in USA the price of the gallon of gas keep rising with intense media coverage (the Middle East issues took a center stage), when the price exceed $4 the coverage reach a fever level; Clinton challenge the American to do some math, while Obama &amp; McCain play on the fear of the Terror &quot;fiasco&quot; (well established media image about the Middle East), as McCain put it (we will not hold hostage to the Terrorists) &amp; to infuse the image with more &quot;reality&quot; the setting president Bush travel to Saudia Arabia begging for mercy &amp; the King turn him back empty handed ?!&lt;br /&gt;In less than one week after the election the price drop to less than $1.5 without a trace of media coverage ?!&lt;br /&gt;The FACT is : 80% of the Arab oil revenue come back to the USA Big Co. at the end of the complicated economical cycle&lt;br /&gt;The Core FACT : the USA  is MANAGING the whole region (including the US public opinion) &amp; since Management require Multi-Tasking ; the War-Peace is just another task&lt;br /&gt;Here what does not and cannot work for all the Israeli as one think tank put it :&lt;br /&gt;1) Israeli control; Neither side wishes to continue the situation that began in 1967, when the Israel Defense Forces took control of a population that is religiously, culturally, economically, and politically different and hostile.&lt;br /&gt;2) A Palestinian state. The 1993 Oslo Accords began this process but a toxic brew of anarchy, ideological extremism, antisemitism, jihadism, and warlordism led to complete Palestinian failure.&lt;br /&gt;3) A binational state: Given the two populations’ mutual antipathy, the prospect of a combined Israel-Palestine (what Muammar al-Qaddafi calls “Israstine”) is as absurd as it seems. &lt;br /&gt;As we speak Clinton is traveling to the region, she said the United States could only accept Hamas in a unity government if it met three conditions (Recognise Israel, Sign on to previous Israeli-Palestinian agreements &amp; Renounce violence — conditions)&lt;br /&gt;and she added : If Hamas has refused to accept, I don’t think it will result in the kind of positive step forward either for the Palestinian people or as a vehicle for a reinvigorated effort to obtain peace that leads to a Palestinian state&lt;br /&gt;The hero-traitor task is an invention of a defeated empty Arabic discourse&lt;br /&gt;For different &quot;political&quot; reasons Hamas &amp; Israel are in the same camp in rejecting the Palstinian State (two state solution)&lt;br /&gt;Clinton conditions can be met easily by (Selective Language) Arafat style&lt;br /&gt;All Palstine from the river to the sea is the HOMELAND of the Palstinians Whom all had the JUSTIFIED right to return&lt;br /&gt;The Palstinian state depend on the gains that the Palstinians get from the moving &quot;Unjust&quot; regional &amp; international balance of power&lt;br /&gt;I have no problem Recognise Israel as a state , but I always reject &amp; fight the Israeli CRIMINAL STATUS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the last presidential election season in USA the price of the gallon of gas keep rising with intense media coverage (the Middle East issues took a center stage), when the price exceed $4 the coverage reach a fever level; Clinton challenge the American to do some math, while Obama &#038; McCain play on the fear of the Terror &quot;fiasco&quot; (well established media image about the Middle East), as McCain put it (we will not hold hostage to the Terrorists) &#038; to infuse the image with more &quot;reality&quot; the setting president Bush travel to Saudia Arabia begging for mercy &#038; the King turn him back empty handed ?!<br />In less than one week after the election the price drop to less than $1.5 without a trace of media coverage ?!<br />The FACT is : 80% of the Arab oil revenue come back to the USA Big Co. at the end of the complicated economical cycle<br />The Core FACT : the USA  is MANAGING the whole region (including the US public opinion) &#038; since Management require Multi-Tasking ; the War-Peace is just another task<br />Here what does not and cannot work for all the Israeli as one think tank put it :<br />1) Israeli control; Neither side wishes to continue the situation that began in 1967, when the Israel Defense Forces took control of a population that is religiously, culturally, economically, and politically different and hostile.<br />2) A Palestinian state. The 1993 Oslo Accords began this process but a toxic brew of anarchy, ideological extremism, antisemitism, jihadism, and warlordism led to complete Palestinian failure.<br />3) A binational state: Given the two populations’ mutual antipathy, the prospect of a combined Israel-Palestine (what Muammar al-Qaddafi calls “Israstine”) is as absurd as it seems. <br />As we speak Clinton is traveling to the region, she said the United States could only accept Hamas in a unity government if it met three conditions (Recognise Israel, Sign on to previous Israeli-Palestinian agreements &#038; Renounce violence — conditions)<br />and she added : If Hamas has refused to accept, I don’t think it will result in the kind of positive step forward either for the Palestinian people or as a vehicle for a reinvigorated effort to obtain peace that leads to a Palestinian state<br />The hero-traitor task is an invention of a defeated empty Arabic discourse<br />For different &quot;political&quot; reasons Hamas &#038; Israel are in the same camp in rejecting the Palstinian State (two state solution)<br />Clinton conditions can be met easily by (Selective Language) Arafat style<br />All Palstine from the river to the sea is the HOMELAND of the Palstinians Whom all had the JUSTIFIED right to return<br />The Palstinian state depend on the gains that the Palstinians get from the moving &quot;Unjust&quot; regional &#038; international balance of power<br />I have no problem Recognise Israel as a state , but I always reject &#038; fight the Israeli CRIMINAL STATUS</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/02/kum-ba-yah-undone.html/comment-page-1#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we don&#039;t agree on much xoggoth, but we definitely agree on that last sentiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we don&#8217;t agree on much xoggoth, but we definitely agree on that last sentiment.</p>
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		<title>By: xoggoth</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/02/kum-ba-yah-undone.html/comment-page-1#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>xoggoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS I see Tony Blair is in Gaza, no doubt running up another huge protection bill for the British taxpayer. The peace process can never have enough self seeking egotistical parasites wandering about mouthing platitudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I see Tony Blair is in Gaza, no doubt running up another huge protection bill for the British taxpayer. The peace process can never have enough self seeking egotistical parasites wandering about mouthing platitudes.</p>
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		<title>By: xoggoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>xoggoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Against a state as militarily powerful as Israel, the two state solution is the only one you will ever get but it does not have to be largely on Israel&#039;s terms. Abbas appears no more likely to end this conflict than Hamas. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the agreements in Northern Ireland showed, those who appear too moderate at the outset are often not the solution as they don&#039;t carry the rest with them. It was hardliners like Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley who brought about a (so far) lasting deal not jolly nice chaps like David Trimble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Against a state as militarily powerful as Israel, the two state solution is the only one you will ever get but it does not have to be largely on Israel&#8217;s terms. Abbas appears no more likely to end this conflict than Hamas. </p>
<p>As the agreements in Northern Ireland showed, those who appear too moderate at the outset are often not the solution as they don&#8217;t carry the rest with them. It was hardliners like Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley who brought about a (so far) lasting deal not jolly nice chaps like David Trimble.</p>
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		<title>By: ananosa</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/02/kum-ba-yah-undone.html/comment-page-1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>ananosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>god thats stupid. Clinton pro-palestinian...dont make me laugh xD. she was just stating the obvious....heheheon topic:I wish Abbas stops with his stupid pre-conditions. the blood in Gaza hasn&#039;t dried up yet and all he can say is &quot;recognize israel&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god thats stupid. Clinton pro-palestinian&#8230;dont make me laugh xD. she was just stating the obvious&#8230;.heheheon topic:I wish Abbas stops with his stupid pre-conditions. the blood in Gaza hasn&#039;t dried up yet and all he can say is &quot;recognize israel&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/02/kum-ba-yah-undone.html/comment-page-1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the responses against Hillary, they range from the insulting:&quot;I liked her a lot more as a senator from New York,&quot; Assemblyman Dov Hikind, D-Brooklyn, said. &quot;Now, I wonder as I used to wonder who the real Hillary Clinton is.&quot; To the disbelief that anyone would be critical of Israeli noncompliance in allowing aid into the strip:&quot;I am very surprised, frankly, at this statement from the United States government and from the secretary of state,&quot; said Mortimer Zuckerman, publisher of the New York Daily News and member of the NYC Jewish Community Relations Council.To the conspiracy theories:&quot;We surely know what Hamas stands for as I say they are the forward battalions of Iran.&quot; To the &quot;We want more Bush because he&#039;s good for Israel (who cares if hes bad for America):&quot;I feel it&#039;s unfortunate that they don&#039;t continue the policy of the Bush administration, which was much more pro-Israel,&quot; said Akiva Homnick of Jerusalem. To the &quot;I have family in Israel argument, thus we have to keep bombing Palestinians&quot;:&quot;I happen to have a lot of family who live in Israel and I feel, personally, when you are dealing with people who are very strong against you, you have to stand up to them,&quot; said Tami Davudoff of Kew Gardens.&quot;To the ZOMG! we knew she was pro Palestinian when she made out with Suha!:&quot;Hillary had Mrs. Arafat here and she invited Mrs. Arafat for lunch when she was the first lady,&quot; added Babak Chafe of Great Neck. &quot;She is pro-Palestinian 100 percent, really. Of course, we always knew it.&quot;And Racist:&quot;The easy way to make a peace agreement is to pressure Israel because you can&#039;t pressure the Arabs,&quot; said Solomon Loewi of Monsey, N.Y.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the responses against Hillary, they range from the insulting:&quot;I liked her a lot more as a senator from New York,&quot; Assemblyman Dov Hikind, D-Brooklyn, said. &quot;Now, I wonder as I used to wonder who the real Hillary Clinton is.&quot; To the disbelief that anyone would be critical of Israeli noncompliance in allowing aid into the strip:&quot;I am very surprised, frankly, at this statement from the United States government and from the secretary of state,&quot; said Mortimer Zuckerman, publisher of the New York Daily News and member of the NYC Jewish Community Relations Council.To the conspiracy theories:&quot;We surely know what Hamas stands for as I say they are the forward battalions of Iran.&quot; To the &quot;We want more Bush because he&#039;s good for Israel (who cares if hes bad for America):&quot;I feel it&#039;s unfortunate that they don&#039;t continue the policy of the Bush administration, which was much more pro-Israel,&quot; said Akiva Homnick of Jerusalem. To the &quot;I have family in Israel argument, thus we have to keep bombing Palestinians&quot;:&quot;I happen to have a lot of family who live in Israel and I feel, personally, when you are dealing with people who are very strong against you, you have to stand up to them,&quot; said Tami Davudoff of Kew Gardens.&quot;To the ZOMG! we knew she was pro Palestinian when she made out with Suha!:&quot;Hillary had Mrs. Arafat here and she invited Mrs. Arafat for lunch when she was the first lady,&quot; added Babak Chafe of Great Neck. &quot;She is pro-Palestinian 100 percent, really. Of course, we always knew it.&quot;And Racist:&quot;The easy way to make a peace agreement is to pressure Israel because you can&#039;t pressure the Arabs,&quot; said Solomon Loewi of Monsey, N.Y.&quot;</p>
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