As soon as the nation begins to form as a sovereign state, its progressive functions all but vanish. Jean Genet was enchanted by the revolutionary desire of the Black Panthers and the Palestinians, but he recognized that becoming a sovereign nation would be the end of their revolutionary qualities. “The day the Palestinians are institutionalized,” he said, “I will no longer be at their side. The day Palestinians become a nation like any other nation, I will no longer be there.” With national “liberation” and the construction of the nation-state, all of the oppressive functions of modern sovereignty inevitably blossom in full force.
- Hardt and Negri (2001) Empire, p 109
Filed Under no-state solution, palestine, QuiQui
So…what you’re saying is that it’s completely cool with Palestinians to perpetuate the “victim” role for as long as it takes.
Like this is a shocker to anyone…
Posted by Brad | February 3, 2009, 12:36 pmThere are very problematic issues with this notion.
Even though I a Palestinian, personally don’t care about a Palestinian state, this is the kind of fucked up romanticism that Palestinians don’t need from so-called supporters.
Posted by rawan | February 3, 2009, 12:56 pmQQ is a marxist. She doesn’t believe in “nation state”. Her vision is of one unified world of socialist labor camps and socialist hard labor camps.
People like her were the first to be executed for the good of the party by the Soviets after the revolution. Many times they went to their deaths willingly.
Posted by Anonymous | February 3, 2009, 12:57 pmIs QuiQui a Jew? I only hear shit like this from diehard Jewish socialists.
Posted by Anonymous | February 3, 2009, 12:59 pmSpeaking of music videos, how about this one?<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ucWnJGK0wEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ucWnJGK0wE<br />I think Gazans dressed in Hamas outfits could make it work! They could go on tour in Europe and North America, raising funds for humanitarian relief. Everyone loves a good sense of humor… except KABOBfest members.
Posted by programmer craig | February 3, 2009, 9:12 amFree bonus, the planes in that video are Nazi “Stuka” dive bombers!
Also, does it really surprise anyone that QuiQui supports the struggle itself, without supporting the desired outcome of the struggle? In other words, she doesn’t want the struggle to ever succeed? She hasn’t exactly been hiding it.
Posted by programmer craig | February 3, 2009, 1:22 pmThe Palestinian Authority is already trying to play that role, so look no further for a preview of the kind of state the ‘international community’ wants to see.
Posted by Yaman | February 3, 2009, 1:41 pmPC,
How’s your mom doing? That hoe ran up on me in SF last weekend trying to trade me some burgers for crack. i told her i don’t deal drugs and she offered her son’s teabagging services.
Man, you are the world’s wittiest teabagger. By the way, you never defined terrorist yet.
Posted by Yasser | February 3, 2009, 1:44 pmYeah, I apologize for not talking about yo’ momma and gay sex every time I comment. You forgot to call me a redneck, this time… what’s up with that?
By the way, you never defined terrorist yet.
Sure I did. Just because you didn’t like my definition, doesn’t mean I didn’t define it, dude. Or do you figure you’ll just keep whining until I give in and give you a definition you like?
Posted by programmer craig | February 3, 2009, 1:58 pmYasser, speaking of moms, I only had a $20 for yours last night. She really outperformed herself this time. My German Shepherd has never yelped like that before.
Posted by Anonymous | February 3, 2009, 2:00 pmI believe, if I’m not mistaken, that this quote points out the fact that if Palestinians were granted a stable living condition by Israel under their own law and order with their own “guaranteed safety” (“”because guaranteed safety is something that comes at the expense of living in a free society)…..then the revolutionary characters in Palestinian politics would come to their end. This would make the Israelis happy because although they love oppressing the Palestinians, they hate it when Arabs won’t just lie down and take the abuse. So in short, this quote points that Israel must take the initiative and give up its stranglehold on a people to secure its own perceived security as a nation as it desires. (Although this will never happen in its current state, but that’s a whole other set of discourse)
Posted by mehmet | February 3, 2009, 2:05 pmPC,
You zionut juggling bigot…you did not provide a definition! You provided an “example”. Here, I’ll help. Definition of zionut teabagger: One who juggles zionuts in their mouth. Example of a zionut teabagger: PC.
Try again.
Anon – German shepherd? Are you a Nazi?
Posted by Yasser | February 3, 2009, 2:25 pmYasser, you know I don’t mind replying to insults, but you have to at least make them more interesting and creative if you want to make it worth my time
Posted by programmer craig | February 3, 2009, 2:30 pmPC,
Provide a definition, not an “example” of “terrorist” and i’ll let my zionut friend teabag you.
Posted by Yasser | February 3, 2009, 2:56 pmYasser, why are you so obsessed with male sex organs? Was pappa cruel?
Posted by Anonymous | February 3, 2009, 3:17 pmProvide a definition, not an “example” of “terrorist” and i’ll let my zionut friend teabag you.
Well, that’s hardly motivation, is it? How about I provide both a definition and an example, and you upload a video of “Yasser” having sex with a chicken to YouTube?
OK here goes:
*)Terrorism is the deliberate commission of violent criminal acts against the innocent, with the intent to coerce political or ideological concessions from a third party. It reliant on the horrific nature of the acts to produce fear and revulsion – hence the term “terrorism” – to force people to make concessions they do not want to make.
Examples would be: Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, etc.
*)A supporter of terrorism is somebody who believes that terrorism is a good and effective tactic, especially when used against entities too powerful for the weak or the cowardly to be willing to confront by other means.
Example would be: Yasser
*)An apologist for terrorism is somebody who claims to be opposed to terrorism, but at the same time justifies it as a “last resort”, implying that desperate people have “no choice”.
Example would be: KABOBfest members
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Now, please post a link to the chicken fucking here for all to see, whenever you manage to get that done. Maybe you can get your Zionut friend to teabag you for a bit before you get started, if chickens aren’t really your thing. Or maybe yo momma can do it for you? You’re prolly used to that, anyway, right?
Posted by programmer craig | February 3, 2009, 3:33 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHEivPHjimw
Is that what happened to you, Yassir?
Posted by programmer craig | February 3, 2009, 3:56 pmUmm, fellas? QuiQui provided a stimulating idea which I’m sure has its partisans and opponents out there. It might be edifying to hear from them. Instead, we get the deeply unfunny braying of a bunch of fetuses.
Perhaps you might set your sights just a tad higher?
Posted by Ismail | February 3, 2009, 5:03 pmI have nothing to say to Marxists, Ismail.
Instead, we get the deeply unfunny braying of a bunch of fetuses.
Isn’t that the norm, here? Am I on the wrong blog? I thought this was KABOBfest?
Posted by programmer craig | February 3, 2009, 5:07 pmWhat are you even fighting for Qui Qui? What a joke of a lifetime student
Posted by Calling out qui qui | February 3, 2009, 5:56 pmModern sovereignty.
What is that, exactly? I’ve never stopped to think about what that means. Maybe I’ll find out it’s not all that good.
Posted by Anonymous | February 3, 2009, 7:01 pmCuba, Zimbabwe, and South Africa come to mind. It’s rather depressing. There’s basically nothing that can be done about it though; this is what happens when resistance movements turn into governments.
Posted by Kamal | February 3, 2009, 9:55 pmWell, Hardt & Negri always were a bunch of bullshitters, really.
Posted by Ali | February 4, 2009, 3:10 amPC,
That’s a nice hoe…i like that you listen to me like your mom does her pimp.
Now define Zionut Juggling Bigot.
Posted by Yasser | February 4, 2009, 8:14 amHaving trouble finding chickens? I’d settle for some other barnyard animal too.
Posted by programmer craig | February 4, 2009, 8:48 amPC,
You, teabagging coward. You see, the game is different here…without a machine gun and a checkpoint, you have no power over me…but as shown, I can cause you to respond to me and listen like a good hoe. Now keep your self busy juggling zionuts in your mouth until the next time I tell you to try and define something…and you will listen like you did earlier. Nothing more cowardly than a zionis without a gun.
Posted by Yasser | February 4, 2009, 10:53 amCouldn’t get it up even with yo momma helping you, eh?
Posted by programmer craig | February 4, 2009, 11:23 amI looked for your video just now, and I think I found it!
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file;=09020108_monkey.wmv
Is that you? Geez, man, you need to think about waxing. Just saying.
Posted by programmer craig | February 4, 2009, 11:30 amNice Try PC. You think I’m clicking on any link you provide? You’re a pathetic Zionut. I bet you could shoot me, take my home/land and deny me equal rights under the law don’t you…Not here bigot, not here.
Hey Bigot. How do you define, population explosion? What should Israel do to stop the Palestinians from outnumbering them in Palestine? Should they all be killed? Or do you advocate creating a free equal country for all?
Posted by Yasser | February 4, 2009, 11:35 amWhy you ask me these things? You think I’m Israeli or something? Or are you just embarrassed I found your video?
Posted by programmer craig | February 4, 2009, 12:24 pmThat’s what I thought PC, you murder apologist. You wish you could kill me and my family and take my house don’t you?
Posted by Yasser | February 4, 2009, 1:04 pmParanoid much?
Posted by programmer craig | February 4, 2009, 2:09 pmeh?
Posted by crackhead | February 4, 2009, 5:20 pmare you?
Posted by Anonymous | February 4, 2009, 5:20 pmProgrammed Crackhead juggles balls for crack. It's sad but true. The Zionuts pay him to come here and spew hatred in return for crack.
Posted by Yasser | February 5, 2009, 11:48 amSo it took just a bit more than 24 hours for you to recover from the ass-kicking I gave you yesterday? Quite disappointing. I begin to see why Israelis have so much trouble with Gaza…
Posted by programmer craig | February 5, 2009, 4:49 pmLook PC, I may suck Dahlan’s fat dick for minimum wage, but at least I do it with Palestinian pride!
Posted by Yasser | February 5, 2009, 10:48 pmOOps, I just told everyone!
I need to cut down on the crack!
Posted by Yasser | February 5, 2009, 10:52 pmI’m PC,
I use other people’s names to make comments. I also juggle zionuts in my mouth and hate Palestinians.
Posted by programmer craig | February 6, 2009, 9:38 amI support a state that controls the lives of millions yet denies them equal rights under the law, because they are not Jewish. I also support taking their homes and killing their children because i am zionut loving zionist…who teabags other zionists, for fun. Killing Palestinian children is cool. I also kick people’s asses on comment sections of blogs I claim are useless.
Posted by programmer craig | February 6, 2009, 9:40 amComplete silence and complicity by Kabob for Hamas crimes. I overheard Will say, referring to the Gazans, “Resistance forever. And the people? Let them eat dirt”.
Posted by Anonymous | February 8, 2009, 12:09 amWell, unlike KabobFest, apparently, I’m looking forward to the Palestinians becoming a nation like any other nation.
Posted by Joe | February 9, 2009, 11:23 pm