Jewish-American group Jewish Voice for Peace is launching a campaign aimed at counteracting AIPAC, the lobbying group implicated in a number of scandals involving foreign agents suspected of spying on America for Israel.
In a message sent to supporters today, communications director Cecilie Surasky announced that JVP had purchased a truck advertisement circling outside the conference in Washington D.C. to greet the conference’s attendees, who include Congresspeople, the Vice President, local and state leaders, and university students.
JVP also has volunteers pamphleting the area with a very simple message that captures the responsibility Americans have for Israel’s war crimes: our taxes come with strings attached. They’ve also set up a website where you can send the same message to your representatives in Congress at WithStringsAttached.org.
In her e-mail, Surasky also calls out AIPAC on its double-speak regarding “peace:”
Surely at the conference many will speak about peace. In fact, the conference platform talks about ‘peace principles.’ But simply talking about peace is cheap.AIPAC insists on more unconditional military aid to Israel, without taking stock of–or even mentioning–the attacks on civilians in Gaza.
AIPAC decries any divestment from the Israeli occupation–do they even know there’s an occupation?–but pushes for divestment from Iran.
We are there now to remind them that there are real people and real lives being destroyed by US support for the occupation.
With the world roundly condemning Israel for the massive violence it inflicted on the civilian population of Gaza this January, now is the time to challenge the lobbies that funnel American tax dollars to Israel to enable war crimes. Kudos to JVP for spearheading this initiative.
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- Hampshire College divests from Israeli occupation
I have a question for you: A lot of American tax dollars go to aid for the Palestinians. Does that make Americans responsible for the rockets and terrorist attacks coming from the Palestinians?
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 4, 2009, 11:32 pmIn 2008 the US gave $562 million to the Palestinian Authority. In the same year, it gave $2.4 billion to Israel. Not only does the sheer disparity in the amount make your equivocation absurd, but so too does the use of that money. $2.38 BILLION of the money going to Israel is for military purposes. How much of the money going to the Palestinian Authority can be used for military purposes? $0. At best, an amount is used for training police forces, but none for military forces that can fight Israel. Finally, the Palestinian Authority, which receives American money, does not launch rockets at Israel. Other groups like Hamas do that, and they receive no money. Of course, Hamas' rockets require a 7th grader's knowledge of physics and don't cost money to produce, which is the only reason why they exist. So, in a way, America is responsible for the fact that assholes like Mahmoud Abbas are in charge of the Palestinian Authority, because they fund that regime, but they are not responsible for rocket violence. However, they are directly responsible for the BILLIONS of dollars of weaponry they give to Israel and the IDF, which ends up raining down on Palestinian children.
Posted by yaman | May 5, 2009, 12:33 amIn 2008 the US gave $562 million to the Palestinian Authority. In the same year, it gave $2.4 billion to Israel. Not only does the sheer disparity in the amount make your equivocation absurd, but so too does the use of that money. $2.38 BILLION of the money going to Israel is for military purposes. How much of the money going to the Palestinian Authority can be used for military purposes? $0. At best, an amount is used for training police forces, but none for military forces that can fight Israel. Finally, the Palestinian Authority, which receives American money, does not launch rockets at Israel. Other groups like Hamas do that, and they receive no money. Of course, Hamas' rockets require a 7th grader's knowledge of physics and don't cost money to produce, which is the only reason why they exist. So, in a way, America is responsible for the fact that assholes like Mahmoud Abbas are in charge of the Palestinian Authority, because they fund that regime, but they are not responsible for rocket violence. However, they are directly responsible for the BILLIONS of dollars of weaponry they give to Israel and the IDF, which ends up raining down on Palestinian children.
Posted by yaman | May 5, 2009, 12:33 amNo one claimed the amounts were equal. If the Palestinians could establish a State with a central authority, they would certainly get a lot more. But sadly, they seem unable to manage that. Everyone is trying to help them, though. The Palestinians are not under threat from multiple enemies, the way that Israel is. They are involved with this ideological struggle about the existence of Israel. There are, and have been, all sorts of Palestinian terrorists. They have constantly been making attacks. A lot of American tax dollars go for aid to Palestinians
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 5, 2009, 12:55 amNo one claimed the amounts were equal. If the Palestinians could establish a State with a central authority, they would certainly get a lot more. But sadly, they seem unable to manage that. Everyone is trying to help them, though. The Palestinians are not under threat from multiple enemies, the way that Israel is. They are involved with this ideological struggle about the existence of Israel. There are, and have been, all sorts of Palestinian terrorists. They have constantly been making attacks. A lot of American tax dollars go for aid to Palestinians
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 5, 2009, 12:55 amSurely at the conference many will speak about peace. In fact, the conference platform talks about 'peace principles.' But simply talking about peace is cheap. Yes, simply talking about peace is cheap: Reaffirm Peace Principles …supporting America's efforts to help Israel achieve peace with all her neighbors… …and insisting on an absolute Palestinian commitment to end incitement and violence against Israel. AIPAC insists on more unconditional military aid to Israel, without taking stock of–or even mentioning–the attacks on civilians in Gaza. Support Security Aid to Israel …a 10-year Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed by the United States and Israel in 2007 to gradually increase U.S. security assistance to the Jewish state in order to meet increasing threats. AIPAC decries any divestment from the Israeli occupation–do they even know there's an occupation?–but pushes for divestment from Iran. Back Divestment from Iran the Iran Sanctions Enabling Act of 2009 (H.R. 1327) Do you have any sources of AIPAC decrying, or even saying anything at all, about the ridiculous idea of divestment from Israel? Israel is not threatening to wipe anyone off the map, and is not supporting terrorist groups like Hamas or Hezbollah. Israel is not doing this We are there now to remind them that there are real people and real lives being destroyed by US support for the occupation. Lives are not being destroyed by U.S. support for Israel – lives are being saved. If Israel had not been able to defend so well, think how many Israelis would have been killed, not to mention how many more of Israel enemies.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 5, 2009, 12:58 amSurely at the conference many will speak about peace. In fact, the conference platform talks about 'peace principles.' But simply talking about peace is cheap. Yes, simply talking about peace is cheap: Reaffirm Peace Principles …supporting America's efforts to help Israel achieve peace with all her neighbors… …and insisting on an absolute Palestinian commitment to end incitement and violence against Israel. AIPAC insists on more unconditional military aid to Israel, without taking stock of–or even mentioning–the attacks on civilians in Gaza. Support Security Aid to Israel …a 10-year Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed by the United States and Israel in 2007 to gradually increase U.S. security assistance to the Jewish state in order to meet increasing threats. AIPAC decries any divestment from the Israeli occupation–do they even know there's an occupation?–but pushes for divestment from Iran. Back Divestment from Iran the Iran Sanctions Enabling Act of 2009 (H.R. 1327) Do you have any sources of AIPAC decrying, or even saying anything at all, about the ridiculous idea of divestment from Israel? Israel is not threatening to wipe anyone off the map, and is not supporting terrorist groups like Hamas or Hezbollah. Israel is not doing this We are there now to remind them that there are real people and real lives being destroyed by US support for the occupation. Lives are not being destroyed by U.S. support for Israel – lives are being saved. If Israel had not been able to defend so well, think how many Israelis would have been killed, not to mention how many more of Israel enemies.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 5, 2009, 12:58 amYour ignorance is beyond staggering. Israel and the US are and have been the primary obstacles to the Palestinians having their own state from day one. How can they have their own state when Israel has stolen most of the land over which any potential Palestinian state could be built, and continues to steal more on a daily basis all while talking about peace? How can they have a state when Gaza has been turned into the world's largest concentration camp with the material support needed for a functional society reduced to a trickle by a brutal and illegal Israeli siege? When Natanyahu demands recognition of Israel as a "Jewish State" before there can even be a discussion of Palestinian statehood makes it clear who hold the cards, and it isn't the Palestinians. The money the US gives to the PA goes to an Israeli-controlled Quisling who uses it to cement his own power. The US has armed and equipped Abbas and his gang to use them as a weapon against the Palestinian people, and Abbas is busy building over 50 prisons to deal with anyone who opposes his US-imposed dictatorship. Aid to Israel is actually closer to $10 billion a year if you count loan guarnatees, and there has never been a serious accounting of the US military equipment that is written off as "surplus" and given to Israel for free, though judging by the small size of the Israeli economy versus the enormous size of its military, it must be in the hundreds of bilions. As for terrorism, Israeli and the US are two of the most terroristic nations on the planet, constantly threatening other countries with attacks unless they comply with their demands, and funding terrorist operations against multiple countries, including Iran. Ironically, Israel is also one of the only modern governments proven to have launched terrorist attacks against US interests—look up "Lavon Affair" and "USS Liberty." Any other attacks against America have been by non-state players or blamed on one government or another without evidence. Funny, that you have no problem with US tax dollars going to support a country that has committed terrorist attacks against us, spies on us and sells our military secrets to our enemies, and uses bribery, propaganda and coercion to influence the actions of our government.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 5, 2009, 4:08 amDo you have any sources of AIPAC decrying, or even saying anything at all, about the ridiculous idea of divestment from Israel? Israel is not threatening to wipe anyone off the map, and is not supporting terrorist groups like Hamas or Hezbollah. Once again, you make us wade through your prodigious ignorance. You do realize that not only has Israel helped to arm and train terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East, it also at one time funded Hamas itself as a counterweight to the PLO, just as it now funds Fatah to use against Hamas and the Palestinian people. Just off hand, Israel has armed and trained terrorist organizations like the Mujahedeen e-Khalq which has waged a bombing campaign against Iran, not to mention some fo the Kurdish groups that have waged terrorist attacks in Iran and Turkey as well. They also trained the Shah's secret police, Savak, and also shipped weapons to the Iranian regime during the Iran-Iraq War in violation of an international arms embargo and also part of Reagan's Iran Contra deal. The irony is that many of the weapons used by Hezbollah to defeat Israel in its latest war of aggression against Lebanon were reverse-engineered from US prototypes given to Iran by Israel. Iran has never threatened to wipe Israel off the map and indeed has not attacked another country in centuries. This myth concocted by Israel to justify its aggression against Iran has already been explained to you and disproven, but you are clearly either ineducable or a willful liar as you keep repeating it here. Iran has not threatened Israel or the US, but there is scarcely a day that goes by without Israel threatening or calling for attacks by the US or EU against Iran. The real aggressor here is plain to see. ” target=”_blank”>http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2006/07/e…
Posted by Sean2009 | May 5, 2009, 4:37 amDo you have any sources of AIPAC decrying, or even saying anything at all, about the ridiculous idea of divestment from Israel? Israel is not threatening to wipe anyone off the map, and is not supporting terrorist groups like Hamas or Hezbollah. Once again, you make us wade through your prodigious ignorance. You do realize that not only has Israel helped to arm and train terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East, it also at one time funded Hamas itself as a counterweight to the PLO, just as it now funds Fatah to use against Hamas and the Palestinian people. Just off hand, Israel has armed and trained terrorist organizations like the Mujahedeen e-Khalq which has waged a bombing campaign against Iran, not to mention some fo the Kurdish groups that have waged terrorist attacks in Iran and Turkey as well. They also trained the Shah's secret police, Savak, and also shipped weapons to the Iranian regime during the Iran-Iraq War in violation of an international arms embargo and also part of Reagan's Iran Contra deal. The irony is that many of the weapons used by Hezbollah to defeat Israel in its latest war of aggression against Lebanon were reverse-engineered from US prototypes given to Iran by Israel. Iran has never threatened to wipe Israel off the map and indeed has not attacked another country in centuries. This myth concocted by Israel to justify its aggression against Iran has already been explained to you and disproven, but you are clearly either ineducable or a willful liar as you keep repeating it here. Iran has not threatened Israel or the US, but there is scarcely a day that goes by without Israel threatening or calling for attacks by the US or EU against Iran. The real aggressor here is plain to see. ” target=”_blank”>http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2006/07/e…
Posted by Sean2009 | May 5, 2009, 4:37 amSean, thanks for that link. Brilliantly written and a must read. Of course, I commend you for bothering to put it up in the first place when responding to eagleblogger knowing he lacks the basic intelligence to understand anything outside his strange worldview.
Posted by MohammadKF | May 5, 2009, 6:32 amSean2009: do you have any sources of AIPAC decrying, or even saying anything at all, about the ridiculous idea of divestment from Israel? The irony is that many of the weapons used by Hezbollah to defeat Israel in its latest war of aggression against Lebanon were reverse-engineered from US prototypes given to Iran by Israel. Source? I am now going to read the cute little commentary/propaganda article you provided. Is it going to explain that Ahmadinejad didn't REALLY mean that Israel should be wiped off the map… that he REALLY didn't mean Israel would be burned up like a dried tree in a huge fire? Will it explain how terrorist attacks against Israel are Israel's fault? Just a suggestion: you are better off with solid news and facts than with all this emotional "commentary".
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 5, 2009, 10:28 pmIran has never threatened to wipe Israel off the map and indeed has not attacked another country in centuries. Sorry to contradict your brainwashing, but Iran has in fact threatened Israel. Iran has in fact denied the Holocaust, held conferences to discuss facts of this documented historical event. Why has Ahmadinejad inserted himself into this issue anyway? He is irrelevant. (The reason is that he and his types hate Israel. They were unable to destroy her in war and unable to destroy her through terrorism.) This myth concocted by Israel Israel did not concoct what came out of the Islamofascists mouth! He did that all on his own. Iran has not attacked another country in centuries? Did the war with Iraq involve no attacking? You are a propagandist, a liar, your main purpose is to promote the Islamofascist ideas of hating and blaming Israel and portraying terrorists as completely innocent. You will always find hateful people like MohammedKF to agree with you, but any sensible and intelligent person can see right through your lies.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 5, 2009, 10:38 pmThe real aggressor here is plain to see. Just like the real aggressor in the 1967 Six Day War was Israel, right? Your kind try to call that war the "Israeli war of aggression" but any normal (and not brainwashed) person can see through your perversion of truth.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 5, 2009, 10:44 pmSean2009: do you have any sources of AIPAC decrying, or even saying anything at all, about the ridiculous idea of divestment from Israel? I don't know about AIPAC specifically, but the other branches of the Israeli lobby have been busily making the predictable outcries of "anti-Semitism!" at the various divestment campaigns. Here's one typical example from the ADL: Divestment Equals Anti-Semitism ” target=”_blank”>http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/divestment.asp The irony is that many of the weapons used by Hezbollah to defeat Israel in its latest war of aggression against Lebanon were reverse-engineered from US prototypes given to Iran by Israel. Source? In November 1986, the United States revealed that it had supplied the Iranian military with MIM-23B I-HAWK surface-to-air missiles and BGM-71 TOW antitank missiles via Israel, a part of the Iran-Contra scandal. Iran subsequently worked to reverse engineer the BGM-71 missile, developing a derivative known as the Toophan. Iran has also shown a capability to maintain and potentially produce a derivative of the MIM-23B. ” target=”_blank”>http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran… If you search around you will see references to Hezbollah using the Toophan to destroy Israeli tanks, as fine an example of the chickens coming home to roost as any. Just a suggestion: you are better off with solid news and facts than with all this emotional "commentary". And you are better off continuing to avoid the facts and engaging in your churlish little outbursts; otherwise, you don't have a case.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 6, 2009, 2:29 amSean2009: do you have any sources of AIPAC decrying, or even saying anything at all, about the ridiculous idea of divestment from Israel? I don't know about AIPAC specifically, but the other branches of the Israeli lobby have been busily making the predictable outcries of "anti-Semitism!" at the various divestment campaigns. Here's one typical example from the ADL: Divestment Equals Anti-Semitism ” target=”_blank”>http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/divestment.asp The irony is that many of the weapons used by Hezbollah to defeat Israel in its latest war of aggression against Lebanon were reverse-engineered from US prototypes given to Iran by Israel. Source? In November 1986, the United States revealed that it had supplied the Iranian military with MIM-23B I-HAWK surface-to-air missiles and BGM-71 TOW antitank missiles via Israel, a part of the Iran-Contra scandal. Iran subsequently worked to reverse engineer the BGM-71 missile, developing a derivative known as the Toophan. Iran has also shown a capability to maintain and potentially produce a derivative of the MIM-23B. ” target=”_blank”>http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran… If you search around you will see references to Hezbollah using the Toophan to destroy Israeli tanks, as fine an example of the chickens coming home to roost as any. Just a suggestion: you are better off with solid news and facts than with all this emotional "commentary". And you are better off continuing to avoid the facts and engaging in your churlish little outbursts; otherwise, you don't have a case.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 6, 2009, 2:29 amSorry to contradict your brainwashing, but Iran has in fact threatened Israel. Iran has in fact denied the Holocaust, held conferences to discuss facts of this documented historical event. Why has Ahmadinejad inserted himself into this issue anyway? He is irrelevant. (The reason is that he and his types hate Israel. They were unable to destroy her in war and unable to destroy her through terrorism.) This is all bullshit from the exact same people—the Israeli lobby, Israeli government and the neocons—who bullshitted the American people into a war of aggression against the people of Iraq. Any of this sound familiar: ” target=”_blank”>” target=”_blank”>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0209/12/se… That all turned out to be a pack of lies, didn't it? I would prefer not to wait until Tehran has been levelled to the ground and millions of Iranians have been murdered before we call Naziyahoo and the other Ziofascist scumbags on their bullshit. This myth concocted by Israel Israel did not concoct what came out of the Islamofascists mouth! He did that all on his own. No, his comments were willfully distorted and taken completely out of context to make him out to be another Hitler out to annihilate the planet starting with Israel. Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust, but questioned its use as a smokescreen for Israel's atrocities and a club to silence Israel's critics. The irony as always is that not only has Israel and its allies continuously called for attacks against Iran, when Iran has never threatened Israel with an attack, but also that Israel is a denier of the holocaust against the Armenians. In fact, denial of the Armenian Genocide is official policy in Israel, and the ADL recently sparked a controversy by also denying the Armenian Genocide and blocking efforts for recognition of the event by the US Congress. ” target=”_blank”>” target=”_blank”>http://www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=462&yid=4 "…We reject attempts to create a similarity between the Holocaust and the Armenian allegations. Nothing similar to the Holocaust occurred. It is a tragedy what the Armenians went through, but not a genocide." Israeli Foreign Minister and 1994 Nobel Peace Prize winner Shimon Peres Turkish Daily News, April 10, 2001, Ankara, Turkey ******************* "…This issue [of the Armenian Genocide] should be dealt with by historians and not politicians. We do not support the comparison of the Armenian tragedies to the Jewish Holocaust. Israel will not take a historical and political stance on the issue…" The Israeli Consulate, Los Angeles, USA, April 15, 2001, confirming the Perez statement in response to inquiries from Armenian-American daily Asbarez to the Israeli Consulate in Los Angeles, asking whether the Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres did actually say the AAG was meaningless and reject any similarities between the Holocaust and the AAG. ******************* "…Israel recognizes the tragedy of the Armenians, however, these events can not be compared with a genocide…" Israeli Foreign Office, Official statement, February 19, 2002 Iran has not attacked another country in centuries? Did the war with Iraq involve no attacking? It involved Saddam Hussein, with the direct approval and backing of the US, launching a war of aggression against Iran. The US supplied Saddam with weapons and supplies throughout the war, including chemical and biological weapons, which Saddam used against Iran. Iran exercised its right to defend against the Iraqi attacks, but it did not start the war. You are a propagandist, a liar, your main purpose is to promote the Islamofascist ideas of hating and blaming Israel and portraying terrorists as completely innocent. You will always find hateful people like MohammedKF to agree with you, but any sensible and intelligent person can see right through your lies. Whatever.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 6, 2009, 3:08 amSorry to contradict your brainwashing, but Iran has in fact threatened Israel. Iran has in fact denied the Holocaust, held conferences to discuss facts of this documented historical event. Why has Ahmadinejad inserted himself into this issue anyway? He is irrelevant. (The reason is that he and his types hate Israel. They were unable to destroy her in war and unable to destroy her through terrorism.) This is all bullshit from the exact same people—the Israeli lobby, Israeli government and the neocons—who bullshitted the American people into a war of aggression against the people of Iraq. Any of this sound familiar: ” target=”_blank”>” target=”_blank”>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0209/12/se… That all turned out to be a pack of lies, didn't it? I would prefer not to wait until Tehran has been levelled to the ground and millions of Iranians have been murdered before we call Naziyahoo and the other Ziofascist scumbags on their bullshit. This myth concocted by Israel Israel did not concoct what came out of the Islamofascists mouth! He did that all on his own. No, his comments were willfully distorted and taken completely out of context to make him out to be another Hitler out to annihilate the planet starting with Israel. Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust, but questioned its use as a smokescreen for Israel's atrocities and a club to silence Israel's critics. The irony as always is that not only has Israel and its allies continuously called for attacks against Iran, when Iran has never threatened Israel with an attack, but also that Israel is a denier of the holocaust against the Armenians. In fact, denial of the Armenian Genocide is official policy in Israel, and the ADL recently sparked a controversy by also denying the Armenian Genocide and blocking efforts for recognition of the event by the US Congress. ” target=”_blank”>” target=”_blank”>http://www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=462&yid=4 "…We reject attempts to create a similarity between the Holocaust and the Armenian allegations. Nothing similar to the Holocaust occurred. It is a tragedy what the Armenians went through, but not a genocide." Israeli Foreign Minister and 1994 Nobel Peace Prize winner Shimon Peres Turkish Daily News, April 10, 2001, Ankara, Turkey ******************* "…This issue [of the Armenian Genocide] should be dealt with by historians and not politicians. We do not support the comparison of the Armenian tragedies to the Jewish Holocaust. Israel will not take a historical and political stance on the issue…" The Israeli Consulate, Los Angeles, USA, April 15, 2001, confirming the Perez statement in response to inquiries from Armenian-American daily Asbarez to the Israeli Consulate in Los Angeles, asking whether the Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres did actually say the AAG was meaningless and reject any similarities between the Holocaust and the AAG. ******************* "…Israel recognizes the tragedy of the Armenians, however, these events can not be compared with a genocide…" Israeli Foreign Office, Official statement, February 19, 2002 Iran has not attacked another country in centuries? Did the war with Iraq involve no attacking? It involved Saddam Hussein, with the direct approval and backing of the US, launching a war of aggression against Iran. The US supplied Saddam with weapons and supplies throughout the war, including chemical and biological weapons, which Saddam used against Iran. Iran exercised its right to defend against the Iraqi attacks, but it did not start the war. You are a propagandist, a liar, your main purpose is to promote the Islamofascist ideas of hating and blaming Israel and portraying terrorists as completely innocent. You will always find hateful people like MohammedKF to agree with you, but any sensible and intelligent person can see right through your lies. Whatever.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 6, 2009, 3:08 amJust like the real aggressor in the 1967 Six Day War was Israel, right? Your kind try to call that war the "Israeli war of aggression" but any normal (and not brainwashed) person can see through your perversion of truth. Straight from the horse's mouth: "In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term. The Government of National Unity then established decided unanimously: we will take the initiative and attack the enemy, drive him back, and thus assure the security of Israel and the future of the nation. " -—Menachem Begin ” target=”_blank”>” target=”_blank”>http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0794/9407073.htm
Posted by Sean2009 | May 6, 2009, 3:14 amJust like the real aggressor in the 1967 Six Day War was Israel, right? Your kind try to call that war the "Israeli war of aggression" but any normal (and not brainwashed) person can see through your perversion of truth. Straight from the horse's mouth: "In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term. The Government of National Unity then established decided unanimously: we will take the initiative and attack the enemy, drive him back, and thus assure the security of Israel and the future of the nation. " -—Menachem Begin ” target=”_blank”>” target=”_blank”>http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0794/9407073.htm
Posted by Sean2009 | May 6, 2009, 3:14 amThanks Mohammad. I appreciate the support. I wish every American could read that article and others at Lawrence of Cyberia and recognize that the lies about Iran have a familiar ring to them. I mainly post this stuff in hopes of educating people who may be sitting on the fence or uninformed about the facts. I have little interest in teaching pigs to fly, so I recognize any attempts to educate Eagle and the like is a waste of time.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 6, 2009, 3:20 amAgreed, and I always appreciate that your responses are sourced. I've learned a thing or two. Shame that the people you always destroy in debate don't though.
Posted by MohammadKF | May 6, 2009, 6:32 am" This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term." He wasn't Prime Minister at the time. He is just one guy, stating his opinion. You can spend all day digging up quotes if you like. The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs is a dubious source. About the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs Syria regularly shelled Israeli farms from its Golan Heights region. Israel aerially attacked Syrian emplacements on the Golan Heights. In April 1967 Israel shot down six of Syria’s MiG fighter planes. Israel's National Water Carrier: The Arabs started work on the Headwater Diversion project in 1965. Israel declared that it would regard such diversion as an infringement of its sovereign rights. According to estimates, completion of the project would have deprived Israel of 35% of its contemplated withdrawal from the upper Jordan, constituting one-ninth of Israel's annual water budget. In a series of military strikes, Israel hit the diversion works. The attacks culminated in April 1967 in air strikes deep inside Syria. The increase in water-related Arab-Israeli hostility was a major factor leading to the June 1967 war. more here May 17 – President Nasser asks the UN to remove the UNEF from the Egyptian-Israeli frontier in Sinai. May 18 – UN withdraws peace forces from Sinai, at President Nasser's request. May 22 – President Nasser closes the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping. May 29 – President Nasser declares "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." May 30 – Egypt and Jordan unite against Israel. May 31 – Jordan moves tanks towards Israel. June 5 – Israel launches attack on Egypt, destroying nearly 400 Egypt-based military aircraft. Israeli planes attack airfields in Jordan, Egypt and Syria, nearly destroying the Arab air forces.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 7, 2009, 4:12 pm" This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term." He wasn't Prime Minister at the time. He is just one guy, stating his opinion. You can spend all day digging up quotes if you like. The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs is a dubious source. About the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs Syria regularly shelled Israeli farms from its Golan Heights region. Israel aerially attacked Syrian emplacements on the Golan Heights. In April 1967 Israel shot down six of Syria’s MiG fighter planes. Israel's National Water Carrier: The Arabs started work on the Headwater Diversion project in 1965. Israel declared that it would regard such diversion as an infringement of its sovereign rights. According to estimates, completion of the project would have deprived Israel of 35% of its contemplated withdrawal from the upper Jordan, constituting one-ninth of Israel's annual water budget. In a series of military strikes, Israel hit the diversion works. The attacks culminated in April 1967 in air strikes deep inside Syria. The increase in water-related Arab-Israeli hostility was a major factor leading to the June 1967 war. more here May 17 – President Nasser asks the UN to remove the UNEF from the Egyptian-Israeli frontier in Sinai. May 18 – UN withdraws peace forces from Sinai, at President Nasser's request. May 22 – President Nasser closes the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping. May 29 – President Nasser declares "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." May 30 – Egypt and Jordan unite against Israel. May 31 – Jordan moves tanks towards Israel. June 5 – Israel launches attack on Egypt, destroying nearly 400 Egypt-based military aircraft. Israeli planes attack airfields in Jordan, Egypt and Syria, nearly destroying the Arab air forces.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 7, 2009, 4:12 pmwar of aggression against the people of Iraq The Iraq war was against Saddam Hussein's regime, which was removed easily. Then an insurgency started, the scope of which had not been anticipated. As a propagandist, you are trying to imply that the war is against the people of Iraq – who are actually now free, forming a representative Iraqi government, and developing Iraqi security forces. (It is understandable how upsetting this is to the hardline Islamofascists and those who support their ideology, such as yourself.) That all turned out to be a pack of lies, didn't it? Not necessarily I would prefer not to wait until Tehran has been levelled to the ground and millions of Iranians have been murdered before we call Naziyahoo and the other Ziofascist scumbags on their bullshit. It's funny how your types always bring up Nazis No, his comments were willfully distorted… Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust… You are a liar. Ahmadinejad quotes Why do you lie, and make excuses for Ahmadinejad, trying to twist his words into something else? It is not suprising that Iran arms Hezbollah with weapons it develops. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. (Are you starting to get the picture about Iran having nukes yet?) If your lies are unintentional, I hope this is helpful to you. If you are brainwashed, I hope this dose of truth and reality can be a sort of anti-dote.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 7, 2009, 4:33 pmwar of aggression against the people of Iraq The Iraq war was against Saddam Hussein's regime, which was removed easily. Then an insurgency started, the scope of which had not been anticipated. As a propagandist, you are trying to imply that the war is against the people of Iraq – who are actually now free, forming a representative Iraqi government, and developing Iraqi security forces. (It is understandable how upsetting this is to the hardline Islamofascists and those who support their ideology, such as yourself.) That all turned out to be a pack of lies, didn't it? Not necessarily I would prefer not to wait until Tehran has been levelled to the ground and millions of Iranians have been murdered before we call Naziyahoo and the other Ziofascist scumbags on their bullshit. It's funny how your types always bring up Nazis No, his comments were willfully distorted… Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust… You are a liar. Ahmadinejad quotes Why do you lie, and make excuses for Ahmadinejad, trying to twist his words into something else? It is not suprising that Iran arms Hezbollah with weapons it develops. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. (Are you starting to get the picture about Iran having nukes yet?) If your lies are unintentional, I hope this is helpful to you. If you are brainwashed, I hope this dose of truth and reality can be a sort of anti-dote.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 7, 2009, 4:33 pmAmericans are not particularly interested in propaganda, such as you provided with Lawrence of Cyberia. If you are uninformed about the facts, here you go: Ahmadinejad quotes
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 7, 2009, 4:37 pmAmericans are not particularly interested in propaganda, such as you provided with Lawrence of Cyberia. If you are uninformed about the facts, here you go: Ahmadinejad quotes
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 7, 2009, 4:37 pmeagle007blogger: There is no indication of who provided the translation of Ahmadinejad's words. How do you know you're reading what he said, or that what was said was translated with any of understanding of the cultural significance of words and phrases?
Posted by Margaret | May 8, 2009, 8:44 amThe Iraq war was against Saddam Hussein's regime, which was removed easily. Then an insurgency started, the scope of which had not been anticipated. As a propagandist, you are trying to imply that the war is against the people of Iraq – who are actually now free, forming a representative Iraqi government, and developing Iraqi security forces. (It is understandable how upsetting this is to the hardline Islamofascists and those who support their ideology, such as yourself.) Funny, but the Iraqi people don't seem to share your enthusiasm for their "freedom" and most regard their situation as worse today than it was under Saddam. Even Maliki's Quisling government wants the US to leave, as do over 90 percent of the non-Kurdish population. The purpose of the Iraq War was to destroy Iraq and fracture it along ethnic and religious lines, a plan described years ago by former Israeli general Oded Yinon's "A Plan for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties," written in 1982, which outlines a series of moves Israel can take to divide and neutralize the Arab world so that it cannot resist Israel's expansionist goals: Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi'ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization. ” target=”_blank”>http://www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/zioni… That all turned out to be a pack of lies, didn't it? Not necessarily Laughable, you link to an article written by yourself as proof. Even the Bush administration no longer claims there were WMDs in Iraq, let alone the ludicrous assertion that Saddam sent his WMDs at the last minute to his enemies in Syria rather than use them to stop the US invasion. It's funny how your types always bring up Nazis It is funny how you types always bring up the Grand Mufti to "prove" every Arab everywhere was in cahoots with Hitler, when all you really prove with this is the racist Zionist propensity for holding the entire Arab world collectively responsibile for the actions of any single Arab. Indeed, according to these rabbis, Jewish law forbids you from distinguishing the guilty from the innocent, and requires all Arabs be treated equally as "the enemy": http://www.google.com/reader/view/“ target=”_blank”>” target=”_blank”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrgleGA_-E&eu… No, his comments were willfully distorted… Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust… You are a liar. Ahmadinejad quotes You "prove" Ahmadinejad's comments were not distorted or taken out of context by presenting a list which includes the distorted quotes, taken out of context. Logic isn't your strong point, is it? I offered a detailed analysis of Ahmadinejad's comments, which included their context, written by Lawrence of Cyberia and you have failed to refute a single thing that was written there, instead you ignorantly dismissed it as "lies" and "propaganda." Here is another: ” target=”_blank”>http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=no… Why do you lie, and make excuses for Ahmadinejad, trying to twist his words into something else? You have failed miserably to demonstrate that anything I wrote was a lie. Your handwaving dismissals and wild-eyed, paranoid assertions do not an argument make. If you are brainwashed, I hope this dose of truth and reality can be a sort of anti-dote. After reading your comments, I need a strong dose of anti-dope.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 8, 2009, 4:24 pmThe Iraq war was against Saddam Hussein's regime, which was removed easily. Then an insurgency started, the scope of which had not been anticipated. As a propagandist, you are trying to imply that the war is against the people of Iraq – who are actually now free, forming a representative Iraqi government, and developing Iraqi security forces. (It is understandable how upsetting this is to the hardline Islamofascists and those who support their ideology, such as yourself.) Funny, but the Iraqi people don't seem to share your enthusiasm for their "freedom" and most regard their situation as worse today than it was under Saddam. Even Maliki's Quisling government wants the US to leave, as do over 90 percent of the non-Kurdish population. The purpose of the Iraq War was to destroy Iraq and fracture it along ethnic and religious lines, a plan described years ago by former Israeli general Oded Yinon's "A Plan for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties," written in 1982, which outlines a series of moves Israel can take to divide and neutralize the Arab world so that it cannot resist Israel's expansionist goals: Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi'ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization. ” target=”_blank”>http://www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/zioni… That all turned out to be a pack of lies, didn't it? Not necessarily Laughable, you link to an article written by yourself as proof. Even the Bush administration no longer claims there were WMDs in Iraq, let alone the ludicrous assertion that Saddam sent his WMDs at the last minute to his enemies in Syria rather than use them to stop the US invasion. It's funny how your types always bring up Nazis It is funny how you types always bring up the Grand Mufti to "prove" every Arab everywhere was in cahoots with Hitler, when all you really prove with this is the racist Zionist propensity for holding the entire Arab world collectively responsibile for the actions of any single Arab. Indeed, according to these rabbis, Jewish law forbids you from distinguishing the guilty from the innocent, and requires all Arabs be treated equally as "the enemy": http://www.google.com/reader/view/“ target=”_blank”>” target=”_blank”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrgleGA_-E&eu… No, his comments were willfully distorted… Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust… You are a liar. Ahmadinejad quotes You "prove" Ahmadinejad's comments were not distorted or taken out of context by presenting a list which includes the distorted quotes, taken out of context. Logic isn't your strong point, is it? I offered a detailed analysis of Ahmadinejad's comments, which included their context, written by Lawrence of Cyberia and you have failed to refute a single thing that was written there, instead you ignorantly dismissed it as "lies" and "propaganda." Here is another: ” target=”_blank”>http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=no… Why do you lie, and make excuses for Ahmadinejad, trying to twist his words into something else? You have failed miserably to demonstrate that anything I wrote was a lie. Your handwaving dismissals and wild-eyed, paranoid assertions do not an argument make. If you are brainwashed, I hope this dose of truth and reality can be a sort of anti-dote. After reading your comments, I need a strong dose of anti-dope.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 8, 2009, 4:24 pm" This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term." He wasn't Prime Minister at the time. He is just one guy, stating his opinion. You can spend all day digging up quotes if you like. Right. He is the former prime minister of Israel and one of the most prominent and powerful individuals in Israel's history, but when he says something you don't like, he's just an ordinary Joe expressing his opinion. The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs is a dubious source. About the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs Yes, it is founded and run by former US government officials, diplomats and congressmen. What do they know? Syria regularly shelled Israeli farms from its Golan Heights region. Israel aerially attacked Syrian emplacements on the Golan Heights. In April 1967 Israel shot down six of Syria’s MiG fighter planes. No doubt Israel's attacks were all in self-defense. Israel's National Water Carrier: The Arabs started work on the Headwater Diversion project in 1965. Israel declared that it would regard such diversion as an infringement of its sovereign rights. According to estimates, completion of the project would have deprived Israel of 35% of its contemplated withdrawal from the upper Jordan, constituting one-ninth of Israel's annual water budget. In a series of military strikes, Israel hit the diversion works. The attacks culminated in April 1967 in air strikes deep inside Syria. The increase in water-related Arab-Israeli hostility was a major factor leading to the June 1967 war. more here According to the source you cited, the diversion projects were approved by the UN, which obviously failed to recognize Israel's divine right to the water. Israel's response was an act of war to prevent anyone else but Israel getting the water. Jordan, by contrast, took its case to the UN. The aggressor here is plain to see. May 17 – President Nasser asks the UN to remove the UNEF from the Egyptian-Israeli frontier in Sinai. May 18 – UN withdraws peace forces from Sinai, at President Nasser's request. May 22 – President Nasser closes the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping. If Egypt's blockade of the Straits of Tiran, which did little more than inconvenience Israel, constitutes and act of war, then what does Israel's wholesale blockade of Gaza constitute? May 29 – President Nasser declares "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." Have a source for this? May 30 – Egypt and Jordan unite against Israel. May 31 – Jordan moves tanks towards Israel. June 5 – Israel launches attack on Egypt, destroying nearly 400 Egypt-based military aircraft. Israeli planes attack airfields in Jordan, Egypt and Syria, nearly destroying the Arab air forces. Moving tanks towards Israel during a time of escalating tensions does not constitute an invasion. Neither does Nasser's moving a whole two divisions into the Sinai constitute an invasion. There is no evidence the Arabs were planning an invasion as the forces they mobilized were far too small to be realistically seen as part of an invasion force. Israel, by contrast, mobilized its entire armed forces in preparation for its aggressive attack, a move which necessitated shutting down whole segments of the Israel economy as Israel's forces are composed primarily of reserves and is not something they would have done unless they planned to use those forces. It is clear who fired the first shot and who fully mobilized their military in preparation for war first.
Posted by Sean2009 | May 8, 2009, 5:04 pmYou have failed miserably to demonstrate that anything I wrote was a lie. Here is your lie: Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust… Here is the contradicting evidence: RIGHT HERE . These are direct quotes, from his own mouth. Is it not some sort of Jewish conspiracy, as you suggest, but it is his own words. I offered a detailed analysis of Ahmadinejad's comments, That's right, you provided explanations and excuses provided by a propagandist. Why not take it "straight from the horses mouth" like you mentioned earlier? Funny, but the Iraqi people don't seem to share your enthusiasm for their "freedom" ABC poll: Iraqis more satisfied Mar 16, 2009 … Advances in public attitudes are sweeping Iraq Why do you have such ill-will for the Iraqis? Dude, that thing you linked to on geocities.com is pure propaganda. It is good that I am here for you. the actions of any single Arab Haj Amin Al Husseini did not act alone, and I'm sure you're intelligent enough to realize that. You should look through the info provided again, it is not "analysis' but historical fact. Is it not meant to insult anyone, but to point to historical fact, and I mentioned it to point out the irony.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 19, 2009, 10:52 pmYou have failed miserably to demonstrate that anything I wrote was a lie. Here is your lie: Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust… Here is the contradicting evidence: RIGHT HERE . These are direct quotes, from his own mouth. Is it not some sort of Jewish conspiracy, as you suggest, but it is his own words. I offered a detailed analysis of Ahmadinejad's comments, That's right, you provided explanations and excuses provided by a propagandist. Why not take it "straight from the horses mouth" like you mentioned earlier? Funny, but the Iraqi people don't seem to share your enthusiasm for their "freedom" ABC poll: Iraqis more satisfied Mar 16, 2009 … Advances in public attitudes are sweeping Iraq Why do you have such ill-will for the Iraqis? Dude, that thing you linked to on geocities.com is pure propaganda. It is good that I am here for you. the actions of any single Arab Haj Amin Al Husseini did not act alone, and I'm sure you're intelligent enough to realize that. You should look through the info provided again, it is not "analysis' but historical fact. Is it not meant to insult anyone, but to point to historical fact, and I mentioned it to point out the irony.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 19, 2009, 10:52 pmThe translations are correct, there are a multitude of sources. lol @ your hints and allegations
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 20, 2009, 7:05 pm" This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term." He wasn't Prime Minister at the time. He is just one guy, stating his opinion. You can spend all day digging up quotes if you like. Right. He is the former prime minister of Israel and one of the most prominent and powerful individuals in Israel's history OK lets take what he says as gospel: This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term. Washington Report on Middle East Affairs Yes, it is founded and run by former US government officials, diplomats and congressmen. What do they know? The American Educational Trust was founded in Washington, DC in January, 1982. Its founding chairman was Edward Firth Henderson, a British Army Officer during World War II who served in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. Co-founders were Andrew I. Killgore, AET's first president, who was U.S. Ambassador to the State of Qatar when he retired from the U.S. Foreign Service in 1980; and Richard H. Curtiss, AET's first executive director, who was chief inspector of the U.S. Information Agency when he retired from the U.S. Foreign Service in 1980. In addition to the three founding directors, other initial directors of the American Educational Trust were Prof. John Ruedy, director of studies at Georgetown University's Center for Contemporary Arab Studies; former Democratic Member of Congress Thomas Rees of Los Angeles; John Law, Middle East correspondent for U.S. News & World Report for some 20 years before he founded Mideast Markets, a publication of the Chase Manhattan Bank; and Dr. John Duke Anthony, president and chief executive officer of the National Council on U.S. Arab Relations. Subsequent board chairmen have included Dr. John Davies, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Agriculture and director of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), and the current chairman, the Reverend Dr. L. Humphrey Walz, former associate executive of the Presbyterian synod of the Northeast. Oh yeah, and a couple washed up Congressmen, who, according to you, give it the epitome of legitimacy. Yet when Congressmen call for peace with Israel, or anything else you don't like, they are imperialist assholes.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 20, 2009, 7:20 pmAccording to the source you cited, the diversion projects were approved by the UN No, you are wrong: 1964 Jordan Headwaters Diversion were approved by the Arab League. What is the matter with you? Didn't you read it? Under section – C.4 Unilateral implementation: 1955-1967 (Do you know what "unilateral" means?) Shortly before completion of the Israeli Water Carrier in 1964, an Arab summit conference decided to try to thwart it. Discarding direct military attack, the Arab states chose to divert the Jordan headwaters. Two options were considered: either the diversion of the Hasbani to the Litani and the diversion of the Banias to the Yarmouk, or the diversion of both the Hasbani and the Banias to the Yarmouk. The latter was chosen, with the diverted waters to be stored behind the Mukheiba dam. The Arabs started work on the Headwater Diversion project in 1965. Israel declared that it would regard such diversion as an infringement of its sovereign rights. According to estimates, completion of the project would have deprived Israel of 35% of its contemplated withdrawal from the upper Jordan, constituting one-ninth of Israel's annual water budget. In a series of military strikes, Israel hit the diversion works. The attacks culminated in April 1967 in air strikes deep inside Syria. The increase in water-related Arab-Israeli hostility was a major factor leading to the June 1967 war. Israel's response was an act of war to prevent anyone else but Israel getting the water. Jordan, by contrast, took its case to the UN. WRONG! What is the matter with you? Man really, what's wrong with you? You just totally made that up. Though the Unified Plan failed to be ratified, both Jordan and Israel undertook to operate within their allocations, and two major successful projects were undertaken: the Israeli National Water Carrier and Jordan's East Ghor Main Canal. The National Water Carrier diverted water from the Jordan River fork at Eshed Kinrot to the coastal plain and the Negev desert.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 20, 2009, 7:25 pmDesign of the East Ghor Canal was begun by Jordan in 1957. It was intended as the first section of a much more ambitious plan known as the Greater Yarmouk project. Additional sections included (1) construction of two dams on the Yarmouk (Mukheiba and Maqarin) for storage and hydroelectricity, (2) construction of a 47-km West Ghor Canal, together with a siphon across the Jordan River near Wadi Faria to connect it with the East Ghor Canal, (3) construction of seven dams to utilize seasonal flow on side wadis flowing into the Jordan, and (4) construction of pumping stations, lateral canals, and flood protection and drainage facilities. In the original Greater Yarmouk project, the East Ghor Canal was scheduled to provide only 25% of the total irrigation scheme. Construction of the canal began in 1959. By 1961 its first section was completed; sections two and three, down to Wadi Zarqa, were in service by June 1966.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 20, 2009, 7:32 pmnysun.com January 26, 2006 The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 20, 2009, 8:00 pmnysun.com January 26, 2006 The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 20, 2009, 8:00 pmThere is no evidence the Arabs were planning an invasion as the forces they mobilized were far too small sean2009 I am convinced something is wrong with you, you just make things up as you go. You think these things are not recorded in history? Do you think everyone is stupid? Actually I have seen others with your ideology make up lies, but not as pitifully as you. In your case, the peculiar perversions of logic and outlandishly false assertions suggest that you are not in touch with reality. Is your desperation taking you too far? Look man, the truth is the truth, make up our mind to get to the bottom of things and find out what is really right.
Posted by eagle007blogger | May 20, 2009, 8:08 pm