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By: riskability

riskability — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:49:54 +0000

you add up the 3% cancelled vote, it's mentioned to calculate the exact number of votes every candidate got

By: riskability

riskability — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:43:56 +0000

This was not a coup of an outside group against the ruling elite; it was a coup of the ruling elite against its own people.
It is still too early for a comprehensive analysis, but here are some initial thoughts:
- The willingness of the regime simply to ignore reality and fabricate election results without the slightest effort to conceal the fraud represents a historic shift in Iran. In the previous elections at least the Mullas paid lip service to the voice of the Iranian people. This suggests that they are aware of the fact that they have lost credibility in the eyes of many (most?) of their countrymen, so they are dispensing with even the pretense of popular legitimacy in favor of raw power.
- The Iranian "opposition", which includes some very powerful individuals and institutions, has an agonizing decision to make. If they are intimidated and silenced by the show of force (as they have been in the past), they will lose all credibility in the future with even their most devoted followers. But if they choose to confront their ruthless colleagues forcefully, not only is it likely to be messy but it could risk running out of control and potentially bring down the entire existing power structure, of which they are participants and beneficiaries.
- With regard to the United States and the West, nothing would prevent them in principle from dealing with an illegitimate authoritarian government . they do it every day, from what I see Obama and Khamene are at the same page (recount?!) do you think it matter if it's partial or total?
However this turns out, is a historic turning point in the 30-year history of Iran’s Islamic revolution. Iranians have never forgotten the external political intervention that thwarted their democratic aspirations in 1953. How will they remember this day?
It took less than 4 years for Iranians to realize that boycotting the so-called elections in the Islamic Republic of Iran can only bring to power even a worse. This time around the people turned out to vote for the lesser of two camps of evil –they know the mullah dominated gang of conservatives and "moderates."

By: yaman

yaman — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:13:52 +0000

They also add up to 103%.

By: riskability

riskability — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:44:01 +0000

Confirmed by several reports:
- Near closing time of the polls, mobile text messaging was turned off nationwide
Security forces poured out into the streets in large numbers
- The Ministry of Interior (election headquarters) was surrounded by concrete barriers and armed men
National television began broadcasting pre-recorded messages calling for everyone to unite behind the winner
@@@ -The Mousavi campaign was informed officially that they had won the election, which perhaps served to temporarily lull them into complacency
- But then the Ministry of Interior announced a landslide victory for Ahmadinejad
- Unlike previous elections, there was no breakdown of the vote by province, which would have provided a way of judging its credibility
- The voting patterns announced by the government were identical in all parts of the country, an impossibility
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_d…
- Less than 24 hours later, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamene`I publicly announced his congratulations to the winner, apparently confirming that the process was complete and irrevocable, contrary to – constitutional requirements
-Shortly thereafter, all mobile phones, Facebook, and other social networks were blocked, as well as major foreign news sources.