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		<title>By: eagle007blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>eagle007blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hamas</title>
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		<dc:creator>hamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has not been debunked.  Just saying it is debunked does not make it debunked. 
 
Next. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has not been debunked.  Just saying it is debunked does not make it debunked. </p>
<p>Next.</p>
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		<title>By: big-e</title>
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		<dc:creator>big-e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Falafelosopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Falafelosopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awful article. 
 
If you want to highlight the plight of the Uighurs in China, and talk about the supposed lack of media coverage, there&#039;s no need to put down other movements.   
 
Tibet isn&#039;t a popular issue because of &quot;Hippies&quot; - its popular because its the home of universalist, worldly Buddhist monks like the Dalai Lama, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, who has contributed his share in promoting PEACEFUL global unity around the world -- to more than just his own co-religionists.   
 
Some of the people on this board, and perhaps the Uighurs, should take notes about their approach. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awful article. </p>
<p>If you want to highlight the plight of the Uighurs in China, and talk about the supposed lack of media coverage, there&#039;s no need to put down other movements.   </p>
<p>Tibet isn&#039;t a popular issue because of &quot;Hippies&quot; &#8211; its popular because its the home of universalist, worldly Buddhist monks like the Dalai Lama, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, who has contributed his share in promoting PEACEFUL global unity around the world &#8212; to more than just his own co-religionists.   </p>
<p>Some of the people on this board, and perhaps the Uighurs, should take notes about their approach.</p>
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		<title>By: SanaKF</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanaKF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah alright.  Just making sure. And the rate of conversion there is intense. Like whoa. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah alright.  Just making sure. And the rate of conversion there is intense. Like whoa.</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I meant to imply is that Muslims did not take part in the Rwandan genocide nor were they the prime victims.  
 
Also, I believe the percentage of Muslims prior to the genocide was merely 2%. However, after the genocide it seems that that number has grown to 14% of the population. This is attributed largely to what you mentioned.  
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Rwanda&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Rwanda&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I meant to imply is that Muslims did not take part in the Rwandan genocide nor were they the prime victims.  </p>
<p>Also, I believe the percentage of Muslims prior to the genocide was merely 2%. However, after the genocide it seems that that number has grown to 14% of the population. This is attributed largely to what you mentioned.  </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Rwanda" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Rwanda</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sanakf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanakf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Rwanda has a rather large Muslim population and they were amongst the most targetted (Muslims were propagated as being the devils incarnate). At the same time Muslims were amongst the only groups to provide safety for Hutus. Masajids became sanctuaries while churches became slaughter houses. Rwandan Muslims are both Tutsi and Hutu but again were and are seen as lower than human.

You never hear the positive roles Muslims play in conflict. Just like any group they are prone to error, error which becomes so apparent since muslims can be found in any and every part of the world. People make Islam the scapegoat for problems caused by factors such as poverty, colonialism, general history, politics, poor governance, weak states, etc etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Rwanda has a rather large Muslim population and they were amongst the most targetted (Muslims were propagated as being the devils incarnate). At the same time Muslims were amongst the only groups to provide safety for Hutus. Masajids became sanctuaries while churches became slaughter houses. Rwandan Muslims are both Tutsi and Hutu but again were and are seen as lower than human.</p>
<p>You never hear the positive roles Muslims play in conflict. Just like any group they are prone to error, error which becomes so apparent since muslims can be found in any and every part of the world. People make Islam the scapegoat for problems caused by factors such as poverty, colonialism, general history, politics, poor governance, weak states, etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no link between Al-Qaeda and Hamas, the PLFP, Fatah, or any other mainstream Palestinian group.  
  
Heres a quote from an Al-Qaeda sympathizing group in Gaza that is in opposition to Hamas.    
   
&#8220;We believe that Hamas applies neither Sharia law nor any other Islamic rule or order.&#8221; In what seemed an echo to Osama Bin Laden&#8217;s words, Abu Hafs added: &#8220;We say that the world will not live in peace as long as the blood of Muslims continues to be shed&#8221; (Reuters, September 2).    
   
oh and heres the source:   
   
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&amp;t...%3C/a%3E&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&amp;t...&lt;/a&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&amp;t...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   
   
Furthermore, the link you posted connecting Al-Qaeda to Gaza is from an incredibly pro-Israel site (Israel Today). The information posted there has not been confirmed by any non-partisan sites.  Also, Lena has pointed out that it did not connect any mainstream Palestinian group to those convicted, if the news is even true at all. Also, the news you sourced came from an Egyptian propaganda network, which in the case of terrorism related events has been incredibly faulty. Mainly, because Egypt demonizes any Islamic group out of its fear of the massive popularity of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. When I lived in Egypt for a couple years, the state news tried to say that Gazans were coming into Cairo with suicide belts to destroy Cairo.... this is after the Gazans had destroyed the wall barring them into the Gaza strip. It just tells you how ridiculous Egyptian state media is. 
   
Finally, Hamas (whether you like it or not) has been a bulwark against Takfiri (you probably don&#039;t even know what that is) groups such as Jaysh-Al Muhamad, JUA, and other groups with less than 30 members that most people have never heard of including the very Palestinians living in Gaza from taking over the Palestinian cause. These are the facts, learn to deal with them.  
  
Got any more propaganda for me to bust? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no link between Al-Qaeda and Hamas, the PLFP, Fatah, or any other mainstream Palestinian group.  </p>
<p>Heres a quote from an Al-Qaeda sympathizing group in Gaza that is in opposition to Hamas.    </p>
<p>&ldquo;We believe that Hamas applies neither Sharia law nor any other Islamic rule or order.&rdquo; In what seemed an echo to Osama Bin Laden&rsquo;s words, Abu Hafs added: &ldquo;We say that the world will not live in peace as long as the blood of Muslims continues to be shed&rdquo; (Reuters, September 2).    </p>
<p>oh and heres the source:   </p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&amp;t...%3C/a%3E" rel="nofollow">&lt;a href=&quot;</a><a href="http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&#038;t..." rel="nofollow">http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&#038;t&#8230;</a>&#8221; target=&#8221;_blank&#8221;&gt;<a href="http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&#038;t..." rel="nofollow">http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&#038;t&#8230;</a>   </p>
<p>Furthermore, the link you posted connecting Al-Qaeda to Gaza is from an incredibly pro-Israel site (Israel Today). The information posted there has not been confirmed by any non-partisan sites.  Also, Lena has pointed out that it did not connect any mainstream Palestinian group to those convicted, if the news is even true at all. Also, the news you sourced came from an Egyptian propaganda network, which in the case of terrorism related events has been incredibly faulty. Mainly, because Egypt demonizes any Islamic group out of its fear of the massive popularity of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. When I lived in Egypt for a couple years, the state news tried to say that Gazans were coming into Cairo with suicide belts to destroy Cairo&#8230;. this is after the Gazans had destroyed the wall barring them into the Gaza strip. It just tells you how ridiculous Egyptian state media is. </p>
<p>Finally, Hamas (whether you like it or not) has been a bulwark against Takfiri (you probably don&#39;t even know what that is) groups such as Jaysh-Al Muhamad, JUA, and other groups with less than 30 members that most people have never heard of including the very Palestinians living in Gaza from taking over the Palestinian cause. These are the facts, learn to deal with them.  </p>
<p>Got any more propaganda for me to bust?</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has already been debunked. Repeating the same bullshit doesn&#039;t make it any truer. 
 
Next. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has already been debunked. Repeating the same bullshit doesn&#039;t make it any truer. </p>
<p>Next.</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the fact that nearly every armed conflict in the world today involves Muslims.&quot; 
 
And there you have it! Another ridiculously ignorant statement from Eagle. 
 
Lets go through some of the latest genocides committed in the past couple decades here. 
 
Rwanda? No Muslims there. 
 
Khmer Rouge? No Muslims involved, although half the Muslim population of Cambodia was killed along with everyone else that resisted Pol Pot (they are known as the Cham people, they allied with the United States during the Vietnam war as well). 
 
Bosnia? The victims were Muslim 
 
The current conflict in the Congo? No Muslims involved there and this is by far the largest ethnic cleansing and genocide currently ongoing with a death toll already exceeding 5 million. A conflict that dwarfs all other conflicts in the world combined. 
 
The only genocide that Muslims have participated in is the one in Darfur, and that was between Muslims. And yes its horrible and deplorable. However, to claim that Muslims are responsible for all the armed conflicts in the world is preposterous. 
 
Furthermore, your lumping of all Muslims into one giant monolithic entity is ridiculous.  Most Muslims didn&#039;t even know the Uighur people existed until this latest incident in Xinjiang. You seem to think that Muslims have some sort of hive mind mentality and that they all think alike. Believe me one trip through a few Muslim majority countries will wake you up pretty quickly. In any case how would you like it if I judged all Christians based on the actions of the Lords Resistance Army? 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
It seems that Lena is right, wherever there are people competing for things, there is a large chance of conflict breaking out.  
 
Anyway it is true that Muslims are involved in conflicts, however Muslims make up more than a billion people in the world. Many of them also live in very strategically important places like the Middle East. Its only inevitable that some of them will be involved in some sort of conflict, they are human after all (I&#039;m sure that surprises you Eagle). 
 
In any case, Muslims are not engaged in more wars than any other &quot;monolithic&quot; entity you can try to make up. 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;the fact that nearly every armed conflict in the world today involves Muslims.&quot; </p>
<p>And there you have it! Another ridiculously ignorant statement from Eagle. </p>
<p>Lets go through some of the latest genocides committed in the past couple decades here. </p>
<p>Rwanda? No Muslims there. </p>
<p>Khmer Rouge? No Muslims involved, although half the Muslim population of Cambodia was killed along with everyone else that resisted Pol Pot (they are known as the Cham people, they allied with the United States during the Vietnam war as well). </p>
<p>Bosnia? The victims were Muslim </p>
<p>The current conflict in the Congo? No Muslims involved there and this is by far the largest ethnic cleansing and genocide currently ongoing with a death toll already exceeding 5 million. A conflict that dwarfs all other conflicts in the world combined. </p>
<p>The only genocide that Muslims have participated in is the one in Darfur, and that was between Muslims. And yes its horrible and deplorable. However, to claim that Muslims are responsible for all the armed conflicts in the world is preposterous. </p>
<p>Furthermore, your lumping of all Muslims into one giant monolithic entity is ridiculous.  Most Muslims didn&#039;t even know the Uighur people existed until this latest incident in Xinjiang. You seem to think that Muslims have some sort of hive mind mentality and that they all think alike. Believe me one trip through a few Muslim majority countries will wake you up pretty quickly. In any case how would you like it if I judged all Christians based on the actions of the Lords Resistance Army? </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>It seems that Lena is right, wherever there are people competing for things, there is a large chance of conflict breaking out.  </p>
<p>Anyway it is true that Muslims are involved in conflicts, however Muslims make up more than a billion people in the world. Many of them also live in very strategically important places like the Middle East. Its only inevitable that some of them will be involved in some sort of conflict, they are human after all (I&#039;m sure that surprises you Eagle). </p>
<p>In any case, Muslims are not engaged in more wars than any other &quot;monolithic&quot; entity you can try to make up.</p>
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