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		<title>By: eagle007blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/do-you-see-what-i-see-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-93625</link>
		<dc:creator>eagle007blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spouting your brainwashing while ignoring facts and refusing to read really doesn&#039;t prove anything, other than you seem incapable of handling the truth .  
 
Did you even notice that what you asserted was wrong? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spouting your brainwashing while ignoring facts and refusing to read really doesn&#039;t prove anything, other than you seem incapable of handling the truth .  </p>
<p>Did you even notice that what you asserted was wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: eagle007blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>eagle007blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spouting your brainwashing while ignoring facts and refusing to read really doesn&#039;t prove anything, other than you seem uncapable of handling the truth . 
 
 
Did you even notice that what you asserted was wrong? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spouting your brainwashing while ignoring facts and refusing to read really doesn&#039;t prove anything, other than you seem uncapable of handling the truth . </p>
<p>Did you even notice that what you asserted was wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/do-you-see-what-i-see-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-93623</link>
		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eagle, making up bullshit doesn&#039;t help your argument even slightly.  
 
Once again, I know that being a racist clouds your judgment. But most terrorists are not Arab, its something you will eventually understand when you actually travel the world a little. I know your full of conspiracy theories and racist thoughts just like your easily debunked belief that &quot;all the wars in the world are started by Muslims.&quot;  
 
Furthermore, linking people to Wikipedia on the internet, when it comes to political and historical discussions makes you look like even more of a retard. (It also doesn&#039;t help that your links didn&#039;t really prove anything you had to say). 
 
Anyway Eagle. Heres the real history. Europeans of the Jewish faith came to Palestine with the intents of creating their own country in the Middle East. Unfortunately for them, there was already a thriving community of more than a million people living there. This prompted them to kick most of the Palestinian people out, and forced the survivors to live under martial law for 2 decades and then forced them to live as 2nd class citizens.  
 
Naturally, the Palestinians those who were ethnically cleansed and those few who managed to stay behind did not like the situation.  Of course like most normal human beings they resisted in whatever ways they could.  
 
Later in 1967, Israel launched a surprise attack on Egypt and Syria, and captured even more territory. The people in these territories were forced to live under a brutal military occupation, while Israel moved Jewish settlers onto their most valuable land and appropriated all the water for themselves, forcing the Palestinians to survive on 1/10 of the water of a regular Israeli. Of course the Palestinians did not like this. (nor did they like being forced to sit at check points, get killed randomly, be imprisoned for no reason, have their infrastructure destroyed randomly, nor did they enjoy paying taxes to the Israeli government when their money was being used to build even more settlements). 
 
Its been 60 years since the first ethnic cleansing and another 40 years since the occupation began. Despite all these injustices, today&#039;s Palestinians are willing to accept a Palestinian state on just 20% of their historic homeland (yes even Hamas), or to live in a bi-national state as equals to their Jewish counterparts.  
 
Israel has continued to reject both solutions and insists on continuing to move settlers into the West Bank, and intensifies its blockade of the Gaza strip. 
 
And this is where we are today.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagle, making up bullshit doesn&#039;t help your argument even slightly.  </p>
<p>Once again, I know that being a racist clouds your judgment. But most terrorists are not Arab, its something you will eventually understand when you actually travel the world a little. I know your full of conspiracy theories and racist thoughts just like your easily debunked belief that &quot;all the wars in the world are started by Muslims.&quot;  </p>
<p>Furthermore, linking people to Wikipedia on the internet, when it comes to political and historical discussions makes you look like even more of a retard. (It also doesn&#039;t help that your links didn&#039;t really prove anything you had to say). </p>
<p>Anyway Eagle. Heres the real history. Europeans of the Jewish faith came to Palestine with the intents of creating their own country in the Middle East. Unfortunately for them, there was already a thriving community of more than a million people living there. This prompted them to kick most of the Palestinian people out, and forced the survivors to live under martial law for 2 decades and then forced them to live as 2nd class citizens.  </p>
<p>Naturally, the Palestinians those who were ethnically cleansed and those few who managed to stay behind did not like the situation.  Of course like most normal human beings they resisted in whatever ways they could.  </p>
<p>Later in 1967, Israel launched a surprise attack on Egypt and Syria, and captured even more territory. The people in these territories were forced to live under a brutal military occupation, while Israel moved Jewish settlers onto their most valuable land and appropriated all the water for themselves, forcing the Palestinians to survive on 1/10 of the water of a regular Israeli. Of course the Palestinians did not like this. (nor did they like being forced to sit at check points, get killed randomly, be imprisoned for no reason, have their infrastructure destroyed randomly, nor did they enjoy paying taxes to the Israeli government when their money was being used to build even more settlements). </p>
<p>Its been 60 years since the first ethnic cleansing and another 40 years since the occupation began. Despite all these injustices, today&#039;s Palestinians are willing to accept a Palestinian state on just 20% of their historic homeland (yes even Hamas), or to live in a bi-national state as equals to their Jewish counterparts.  </p>
<p>Israel has continued to reject both solutions and insists on continuing to move settlers into the West Bank, and intensifies its blockade of the Gaza strip. </p>
<p>And this is where we are today.</p>
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		<title>By: eagle007blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/do-you-see-what-i-see-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-93618</link>
		<dc:creator>eagle007blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/middle_east\/8114356.stm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Palestinian state &#039;in two years&#039; &lt;/a&gt; 
Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad has set a two-year target for the creation of a Palestinian state, in a speech in Jerusalem. 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;Israel PM &amp;#039\;may back two states&amp;#039\; &quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Israel PM &#039;may back two states&#039; &lt;/a&gt; 
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may be prepared to endorse a peace process leading to an independent Palestinian state, his defence minister has said. 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/middle_east\/8034304.stm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;US presses Israel over two states &lt;/a&gt; 
US Vice-President Joe Biden has said Israel must back a two-state solution to the conflict with the Palestinians. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/middle_east\/8114356.stm" target="_blank">Palestinian state &#039;in two years&#039; </a><br />
Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad has set a two-year target for the creation of a Palestinian state, in a speech in Jerusalem. </p>
<p><a href="Israel PM &#039\;may back two states&#039\; " target="_blank">Israel PM &#039;may back two states&#039; </a><br />
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may be prepared to endorse a peace process leading to an independent Palestinian state, his defence minister has said. </p>
<p><a href="http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/middle_east\/8034304.stm" target="_blank">US presses Israel over two states </a><br />
US Vice-President Joe Biden has said Israel must back a two-state solution to the conflict with the Palestinians.</p>
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		<title>By: eagle007blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/do-you-see-what-i-see-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-93615</link>
		<dc:creator>eagle007blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Palestinians DID fight against Israel in 1958 and 1967.  If you actually didn&#039;t know that,  you are woefully uninformed. 
 
Not all fought... as we all know, many did not fight, and many fled. 
 
In 1947 the Palestinians attacked Israel.  &lt;i&gt;when the British Mandate expired, civil war raged in Palestine. On paper and on the ground, the Palestinians had the edge: there were twice as many of them, they occupied the higher altitudes and they had friendly regimes next door. But isolated and outnumbered as they were, the Jews were far better organized, motivated, financed, equipped and trained than their adversaries, who were so fragmented &#8212; by geography and tradition and clan &#8212; that the term &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; was either unwarranted or at least premature. The war became a rout once the Jews took the offensive, and the Palestinian refugee crisis began (if &#8220;crisis&#8221; can be used to describe anything so chronic). &lt;/i&gt; 
 
Transfer &#8212; or expulsion or ethnic cleansing &#8212; was never an explicit part of the Zionist program, even among its more extreme elements. 
 
In 1948, Israel declared statehood and the armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq marched in. Again, for all their numerical superiority, the Arabs were ill-equipped, inexperienced, unprepared. Some Arab leaders knew they were in over their heads. 
 
Had the Israelis committed systematic ethnic cleansing, there would not be 1.4 million Arabs in Israel today. 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/1947%E2%80%931948_Civil_War_in_Mandatory_Palestine&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;1947&#8211;1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine&lt;/a&gt;   READ THIS ARAYUS 
 
After the 1948 war,   &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Palestinian_fedayeen&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Palestinian fedayeen guerrillas&lt;/a&gt; attacked Israel. 
 
Did you know that before the 1967 war,  Syria harbored and trained Palestinian commandos... their aim was to destroy the Jewish state.  And yes, those Palestinians as well as others others fought in the 1967 war. 
 
 
Most terrorist groups in the world today ARE Arab!  You might as well be arguing that the sun doesn&#039;t exist.  What is the matter with you?  Are you living in some sort of denial, like an alternate reality? 
 
And no, I am not a racist -  I am pointing out a simple fact.  The fact that you are denying the truth suggests racism or brainwashing or something wrong.   
 
I am not here to lie to you Arayus.  It seems like you actually believe some of these mistakes - and that is not good - so discovering what really happened is a good thing for you... although you may find out some things that disturb you, as you were obviously lied to by someone or by what you read. 
 
 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Palestinians DID fight against Israel in 1958 and 1967.  If you actually didn&#039;t know that,  you are woefully uninformed. </p>
<p>Not all fought&#8230; as we all know, many did not fight, and many fled. </p>
<p>In 1947 the Palestinians attacked Israel.  <i>when the British Mandate expired, civil war raged in Palestine. On paper and on the ground, the Palestinians had the edge: there were twice as many of them, they occupied the higher altitudes and they had friendly regimes next door. But isolated and outnumbered as they were, the Jews were far better organized, motivated, financed, equipped and trained than their adversaries, who were so fragmented &mdash; by geography and tradition and clan &mdash; that the term &ldquo;Palestinian&rdquo; was either unwarranted or at least premature. The war became a rout once the Jews took the offensive, and the Palestinian refugee crisis began (if &ldquo;crisis&rdquo; can be used to describe anything so chronic). </i> </p>
<p>Transfer &mdash; or expulsion or ethnic cleansing &mdash; was never an explicit part of the Zionist program, even among its more extreme elements. </p>
<p>In 1948, Israel declared statehood and the armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq marched in. Again, for all their numerical superiority, the Arabs were ill-equipped, inexperienced, unprepared. Some Arab leaders knew they were in over their heads. </p>
<p>Had the Israelis committed systematic ethnic cleansing, there would not be 1.4 million Arabs in Israel today. </p>
<p><a href="http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/1947%E2%80%931948_Civil_War_in_Mandatory_Palestine" target="_blank">1947&ndash;1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine</a>   READ THIS ARAYUS </p>
<p>After the 1948 war,   <a href="http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Palestinian_fedayeen" target="_blank">Palestinian fedayeen guerrillas</a> attacked Israel. </p>
<p>Did you know that before the 1967 war,  Syria harbored and trained Palestinian commandos&#8230; their aim was to destroy the Jewish state.  And yes, those Palestinians as well as others others fought in the 1967 war. </p>
<p>Most terrorist groups in the world today ARE Arab!  You might as well be arguing that the sun doesn&#039;t exist.  What is the matter with you?  Are you living in some sort of denial, like an alternate reality? </p>
<p>And no, I am not a racist &#8211;  I am pointing out a simple fact.  The fact that you are denying the truth suggests racism or brainwashing or something wrong.   </p>
<p>I am not here to lie to you Arayus.  It seems like you actually believe some of these mistakes &#8211; and that is not good &#8211; so discovering what really happened is a good thing for you&#8230; although you may find out some things that disturb you, as you were obviously lied to by someone or by what you read.</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if the Palestinians create an army and take back their homeland would that mean Israel has no right to the land?  
  
So your basically advocating armed resistance? In your world might makes right? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if the Palestinians create an army and take back their homeland would that mean Israel has no right to the land?  </p>
<p>So your basically advocating armed resistance? In your world might makes right?</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/do-you-see-what-i-see-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-93608</link>
		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, and prior to it was the &quot;homeland&quot; of the Caananites.  
 
When the Caananites begin demanding their land back, I&#039;m sure Israel will be more than happy to give it back to its original owners. =P </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, and prior to it was the &quot;homeland&quot; of the Caananites.  </p>
<p>When the Caananites begin demanding their land back, I&#039;m sure Israel will be more than happy to give it back to its original owners. =P</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/do-you-see-what-i-see-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-93605</link>
		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palestinians didn&#039;t participate as an army in 1948 or 1967 Eagle. They were ethnically cleansed from their lands simply because they didn&#039;t fit a certain &quot;criteria.&quot; 
 
And, for the record most so called terrorist groups are not &quot;Arab.&quot; I know your a racist, and that makes it difficult for you to understand this concept.  
 
&quot;It is the Palestinians who have run out of options - they are on the losing end. They must continue to develop a legitimate government and move this process forward&quot; 
 
Please tell me how you would create a legitimate government while the area you are supposed to govern is under a brutal military occupation by one of the worlds most powerful armies.  
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palestinians didn&#039;t participate as an army in 1948 or 1967 Eagle. They were ethnically cleansed from their lands simply because they didn&#039;t fit a certain &quot;criteria.&quot; </p>
<p>And, for the record most so called terrorist groups are not &quot;Arab.&quot; I know your a racist, and that makes it difficult for you to understand this concept.  </p>
<p>&quot;It is the Palestinians who have run out of options &#8211; they are on the losing end. They must continue to develop a legitimate government and move this process forward&quot; </p>
<p>Please tell me how you would create a legitimate government while the area you are supposed to govern is under a brutal military occupation by one of the worlds most powerful armies.</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/do-you-see-what-i-see-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-93604</link>
		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to cite conspiracy theories? How about the one where the Israelis were dancing in the streets right when 9/11 happened? 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DtRfhUezbKLw&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to cite conspiracy theories? How about the one where the Israelis were dancing in the streets right when 9/11 happened? </p>
<p><a href="http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DtRfhUezbKLw" target="_blank">http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: wake-up</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/do-you-see-what-i-see-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-93595</link>
		<dc:creator>wake-up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are those mistaken ideas the reason why the Palestinians celebrated 9-11? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are those mistaken ideas the reason why the Palestinians celebrated 9-11?</p>
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