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	<title>Comments on: KABOBhero: Lubna al-Hussein</title>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/kabobhero-lubna-ahmed-al-hussein.html/comment-page-1#comment-93086</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really excited to hear about new underwear laws....and the brave souls who will stand up and FIGHT THEM. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m really excited to hear about new underwear laws&#8230;.and the brave souls who will stand up and FIGHT THEM.</p>
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		<title>By: Hadia</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/kabobhero-lubna-ahmed-al-hussein.html/comment-page-1#comment-93085</link>
		<dc:creator>Hadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so glad people are fighting about pants these days.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so glad people are fighting about pants these days&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SanaKF</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/kabobhero-lubna-ahmed-al-hussein.html/comment-page-1#comment-92977</link>
		<dc:creator>SanaKF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>70 excuses, yo. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>70 excuses, yo.</p>
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		<title>By: OooKhalid</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/kabobhero-lubna-ahmed-al-hussein.html/comment-page-1#comment-92950</link>
		<dc:creator>OooKhalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it would be hard to define which is appropriate clothing, however it could be that ms Lubna wore pants tailored for men, and is seeking a bit of attention in an otherwise lackluster life; with the added bonus of free air-tickets to Vienna!! :) 
 
Like you said, there are more important things then pants. 
 
Not worth making opportunists like sista Lubnan heroes!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it would be hard to define which is appropriate clothing, however it could be that ms Lubna wore pants tailored for men, and is seeking a bit of attention in an otherwise lackluster life; with the added bonus of free air-tickets to Vienna!! <img src='http://www.kabobfest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Like you said, there are more important things then pants. </p>
<p>Not worth making opportunists like sista Lubnan heroes!</p>
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		<title>By: SanaKF</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/kabobhero-lubna-ahmed-al-hussein.html/comment-page-1#comment-92939</link>
		<dc:creator>SanaKF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. Even with the shari&#039;ah ruling against the imitation of the opposite sex in clothing there is no specific punishment given. In fact, as far as my knowledge goes and if I&#039;m wrong someone correct me, there is no punishment in the dunya for immodest clothing in general. It&#039;s a moral ruling with moral consequences and God is left to judge and either reward or punish in the akhira.  
  
There is correct/incorrect clothing in Islam, falling in line with the religion&#039;s emphasis on modesty, control of the ego, and moderation. But that&#039;s not to say that that justifies lashes for wearing clothing that doesn&#039;t fall within the guidelines - when the Prophet SAW never did any such thing, why should we as Muslims? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Even with the shari&#39;ah ruling against the imitation of the opposite sex in clothing there is no specific punishment given. In fact, as far as my knowledge goes and if I&#39;m wrong someone correct me, there is no punishment in the dunya for immodest clothing in general. It&#39;s a moral ruling with moral consequences and God is left to judge and either reward or punish in the akhira.  </p>
<p>There is correct/incorrect clothing in Islam, falling in line with the religion&#39;s emphasis on modesty, control of the ego, and moderation. But that&#39;s not to say that that justifies lashes for wearing clothing that doesn&#39;t fall within the guidelines &#8211; when the Prophet SAW never did any such thing, why should we as Muslims?</p>
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		<title>By: Arayus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent response Sana.  
 
Also, keep in mind Khalid, that men and women do not wear the same type of &quot;jeans.&quot; Male and Female jeans are VERY different. You only have to look at a pair of women jeans to see that it would be very difficult for a man to fit himself into them comfortably.  
 
Furthermore, even if a women did dress like a man, there is nothing in the Islamic legal records that says that she could be punished (much less receive 40 lashes for wearing &quot;pants&quot;).  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent response Sana.  </p>
<p>Also, keep in mind Khalid, that men and women do not wear the same type of &quot;jeans.&quot; Male and Female jeans are VERY different. You only have to look at a pair of women jeans to see that it would be very difficult for a man to fit himself into them comfortably.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, even if a women did dress like a man, there is nothing in the Islamic legal records that says that she could be punished (much less receive 40 lashes for wearing &quot;pants&quot;).</p>
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		<title>By: SanaKF</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanaKF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but Khalid - trousers are not exclusively men&#039;s clothing. Look at, for instance, the Pakistani dress for men and women. Virtually the same, save for that women&#039;s tend to be more colourful and have a long scarf for purposes of Islamic modesty. The dress consists of long loose shirts and loose, long trousers. Are you telling me that&#039;s unIslamic? 
 
It is true that under shar&#039;iah men and women cannot emulate one another&#039;s style; meaning as a man you cannot wear clothing which is distinctively womanly and taking away from your gender-identity as a male. But things aren&#039;t as cut and dry as they used to be in the time of the Prophet SAW; gender-specific clothing was far more defined than it is today. 
 
Today, men&#039;s clothing and women&#039;s clothing, at least in modern European culture, have a lot of similarities but still have their differences. Women&#039;s clothing, for the most part, is generally quite different than men&#039;s even if the basic themes exist in both fashions - i.e. a shirt and a pair of pants. Additionally, if we&#039;re saying that pants are specifically men&#039;s clothing and something like a jalabiyya is strictly female&#039;s - then what of thobes? Are the men of the Khaleej emulating women in their clothing? No, of course not.  It&#039;s men&#039;s fashion to wear kilts in scotland - does that mean that when a Scottish woman wears a skirt, she&#039;s emulating a man? No, of course not.  
 
What is more important is whether or not Islamic guidelines for modesty are being met - are the man and woman&#039;s&#039;s awra covered? Are their pants and shirts loose-fitting? Etc etc. Even scholars of the Salafi persuasion believe it is permissible so long as the woman is wearing a loose garment over. 
 
But quite seriously, bro, I think our Ummah has bigger issues than pants. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but Khalid &#8211; trousers are not exclusively men&#039;s clothing. Look at, for instance, the Pakistani dress for men and women. Virtually the same, save for that women&#039;s tend to be more colourful and have a long scarf for purposes of Islamic modesty. The dress consists of long loose shirts and loose, long trousers. Are you telling me that&#039;s unIslamic? </p>
<p>It is true that under shar&#039;iah men and women cannot emulate one another&#039;s style; meaning as a man you cannot wear clothing which is distinctively womanly and taking away from your gender-identity as a male. But things aren&#039;t as cut and dry as they used to be in the time of the Prophet SAW; gender-specific clothing was far more defined than it is today. </p>
<p>Today, men&#039;s clothing and women&#039;s clothing, at least in modern European culture, have a lot of similarities but still have their differences. Women&#039;s clothing, for the most part, is generally quite different than men&#039;s even if the basic themes exist in both fashions &#8211; i.e. a shirt and a pair of pants. Additionally, if we&#039;re saying that pants are specifically men&#039;s clothing and something like a jalabiyya is strictly female&#039;s &#8211; then what of thobes? Are the men of the Khaleej emulating women in their clothing? No, of course not.  It&#039;s men&#039;s fashion to wear kilts in scotland &#8211; does that mean that when a Scottish woman wears a skirt, she&#039;s emulating a man? No, of course not.  </p>
<p>What is more important is whether or not Islamic guidelines for modesty are being met &#8211; are the man and woman&#039;s&#039;s awra covered? Are their pants and shirts loose-fitting? Etc etc. Even scholars of the Salafi persuasion believe it is permissible so long as the woman is wearing a loose garment over. </p>
<p>But quite seriously, bro, I think our Ummah has bigger issues than pants.</p>
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		<title>By: programmer craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>programmer craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are vouching for her &quot;good Muslim&quot; credentials, Will? Shouldn&#039;t one of this blog&#039;s Muslim members have done that?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are vouching for her &quot;good Muslim&quot; credentials, Will? Shouldn&#039;t one of this blog&#039;s Muslim members have done that?</p>
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		<title>By: Khalid</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/kabobhero-lubna-ahmed-al-hussein.html/comment-page-1#comment-92918</link>
		<dc:creator>Khalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another publicity stunt from a DDM (Deen Deficient Muslim) sista. Its actually against sa&#039;riah for males to wear female clothing and females to wear male clothing. 
 
 
Maybe now she&#039;ll get to seek political asylum in Europe. :Live the fast life. YEAH!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another publicity stunt from a DDM (Deen Deficient Muslim) sista. Its actually against sa&#039;riah for males to wear female clothing and females to wear male clothing. </p>
<p>Maybe now she&#039;ll get to seek political asylum in Europe. :Live the fast life. YEAH!!</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Links &#8212; August, 7, 2009 &#171; Muslimah Media Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/08/kabobhero-lubna-ahmed-al-hussein.html/comment-page-1#comment-92850</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Links &#8212; August, 7, 2009 &#171; Muslimah Media Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Lubna al-Hussein and the Trouser Fiasco: here, here, and resulting social issue unrest [...]</description>
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