Comments on: My Personal Challenge to Niveen Rasheed http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html The irreverent, activist, often-inappropriate Arab-American (and others) blog. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:30:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: KABOBfestWill http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-140305 KABOBfestWill Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:03:03 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-140305 The point is obvious -- the media make such a big deal out of Arab-Jewish friendships when they are simply NOT newsworthy. Only the ignorant think they are novel. The reality is that Palestinians do not overly-personalize the political to the extent that they would never refuse to befriend a Jew -- a hardcore Zionist is a different story. This is only newsworthy if you have little knowledge of this reality. Very simple point that cuts against the dominant thinking. Your real angle here is you hate the politics so you attack the writing, which is why your critique that there is no point is so obviously inaccurate. The point is obvious — the media make such a big deal out of Arab-Jewish friendships when they are simply NOT newsworthy. Only the ignorant think they are novel. The reality is that Palestinians do not overly-personalize the political to the extent that they would never refuse to befriend a Jew — a hardcore Zionist is a different story. This is only newsworthy if you have little knowledge of this reality. Very simple point that cuts against the dominant thinking.

Your real angle here is you hate the politics so you attack the writing, which is why your critique that there is no point is so obviously inaccurate.

]]> By: Confused... http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-140298 Confused... Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:21:11 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-140298 Will, Sadly your write-up has no Beginning, Middle, or End... and most importantly, no Point. I can't figure out where you're coming from or where you're going, or what side you're even on. How/Where did you learn how to write, a few brief instructions you found in a Cracker-Jacks box? Bottom Line: You make no friggen sense and you Ramble like a Mo'Fo'. Will,
Sadly your write-up has no Beginning, Middle, or End… and most importantly, no Point. I can’t figure out where you’re coming from or where you’re going, or what side you’re even on. How/Where did you learn how to write, a few brief instructions you found in a Cracker-Jacks box? Bottom Line: You make no friggen sense and you Ramble like a Mo’Fo’.

]]> By: herb tea http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-98385 herb tea Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:23:04 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-98385 Michael Jackson ended up being totally among the finest performers of all time. I still can't believe he's gone. Michael Jackson ended up being totally among the finest performers of all time. I still can’t believe he’s gone.

]]> By: sunbula http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-98327 sunbula Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:22:24 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-98327 if goes hij, she'll start getting way more news coverage. plus her parents know how to play it smart to the NYT: make sure they get the "we love peace" soundbite in there. if goes hij, she'll start getting way more news coverage.
plus her parents know how to play it smart to the NYT: make sure they get the "we love peace" soundbite in there.

]]> By: Sean2009 http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-97462 Sean2009 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:33:08 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-97462 No, why don't you enlighten us. No, why don't you enlighten us.

]]> By: Sean2009 http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-97461 Sean2009 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:32:28 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-97461 Why don't you actually look up the history of the neocon movement before spouting off with your usual knee-jerk anti-Semitism canards. <a href="http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j061303.html" target="_blank">http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j061303.html</a> Do you really imagine shouting "anti-Semitism" has an effect on any sane person anymore? Why don't you actually look up the history of the neocon movement before spouting off with your usual knee-jerk anti-Semitism canards.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j061303.html

Do you really imagine shouting "anti-Semitism" has an effect on any sane person anymore?

]]> By: Sean2009 http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-97458 Sean2009 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:54:55 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-97458 <i>And I'm sure that a historian is only a "serious historian" if Sean or his coreligionists say so, right? I wonder how many of YOUR "serious" historians are held in high regard by their colleagues? </i> A serious historian is one who, at a minimum, doesn't believe that the version of Israel's history that reads like a rejected script for a John Ford cowboy movie is likely to be an accurate depiction of reality. A serious historian is one who realizes there is an Arab side to the story, and not just an Israeli one. <i>That's according to your "serious" historians, right? Because I've never seen any such claim in the formal histories of the conflict. </i> Really? What "formal" histories would those be, some Zionist hate site? The Deir Yassin massacre and the ethnic cleansing of Haifa all occurred one month before the Arabs declared war. If you ever wish to graduate beyond your amateur status as an Israeli apologist, you might want to familiarize yourself with Zionist arguments. <i>I bet everyone who objects to your propaganda is an "Israeli apologist", right? And before you deny being a propagandist, just look how you are qualifying all your claims by use of pejoratives like "serious historians". Who does that? Somebody who is pimping falsehoods and wants to preemptively defend them. </i> Kind of like how you reject everything I write as "propaganda" and "lunacy" without examining the facts. <i>Sorry I don't have time to reply to the rest. The part where you were talking about "serious historians" and then threw up a wikipedia link was too much for me to bear. You do realize that even wikipedia's version of the Arab-Israeli conflict doesn't support your claims, right? Well, actually you probably don't realize that but whatever.... </i> I gave you a link to an article about what the "right of return" means under international law, not the Wikipedia's version of the Arab Israeli conflict. And I'm sure that a historian is only a "serious historian" if Sean or his coreligionists say so, right? I wonder how many of YOUR "serious" historians are held in high regard by their colleagues?

A serious historian is one who, at a minimum, doesn't believe that the version of Israel's history that reads like a rejected script for a John Ford cowboy movie is likely to be an accurate depiction of reality. A serious historian is one who realizes there is an Arab side to the story, and not just an Israeli one.

That's according to your "serious" historians, right? Because I've never seen any such claim in the formal histories of the conflict.

Really? What "formal" histories would those be, some Zionist hate site? The Deir Yassin massacre and the ethnic cleansing of Haifa all occurred one month before the Arabs declared war.

If you ever wish to graduate beyond your amateur status as an Israeli apologist, you might want to familiarize yourself with Zionist arguments.

I bet everyone who objects to your propaganda is an "Israeli apologist", right? And before you deny being a propagandist, just look how you are qualifying all your claims by use of pejoratives like "serious historians". Who does that? Somebody who is pimping falsehoods and wants to preemptively defend them.

Kind of like how you reject everything I write as "propaganda" and "lunacy" without examining the facts.

Sorry I don't have time to reply to the rest. The part where you were talking about "serious historians" and then threw up a wikipedia link was too much for me to bear. You do realize that even wikipedia's version of the Arab-Israeli conflict doesn't support your claims, right? Well, actually you probably don't realize that but whatever….

I gave you a link to an article about what the "right of return" means under international law, not the Wikipedia's version of the Arab Israeli conflict.

]]> By: C.H. http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-97454 C.H. Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:33:34 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-97454 "It is interesting that the neocons whose agenda you praise were primarily ex-Trotskyists who became fascists, not like there was ever much difference with these types." Where do you come up with the stuff?! Let me guess...they are linked to communism because some "neocons" are Jewish, right? And we all know that communism was a Jewish conspiracy...well, you believe so, at least. "It is interesting that the neocons whose agenda you praise were primarily ex-Trotskyists who became fascists, not like there was ever much difference with these types."

Where do you come up with the stuff?! Let me guess…they are linked to communism because some "neocons" are Jewish, right? And we all know that communism was a Jewish conspiracy…well, you believe so, at least.

]]> By: C.H. http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-97453 C.H. Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:31:21 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-97453 Sean, did you see the video I posted to you the other day? The video of your friends descending on San Fran? Sean, did you see the video I posted to you the other day? The video of your friends descending on San Fran?

]]> By: programmer craig http://www.kabobfest.com/2010/01/my-personal-challenge-to-niveen-rasheed.html/comment-page-1#comment-97452 programmer craig Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:29:03 +0000 http://www.kabobfest.com/?p=6844#comment-97452 <i>There is no serious historian today, even in Israel, who denies the Palestinians were ethnically cleansed.</i> And I'm sure that a historian is only a "serious historian" if Sean or his coreligionists say so, right? I wonder how many of YOUR "serious" historians are held in high regard by their colleagues? <i>The war was started when Jewish forces began to massacre Palestinians...</i> That's according to your "serious" historians, right? Because I've never seen any such claim in the formal histories of the conflict. <i>If you ever wish to graduate beyond your amateur status as an Israeli apologist, you might want to familiarize yourself with Zionist arguments.</i> I bet everyone who objects to your propaganda is an "Israeli apologist", right? And before you deny being a propagandist, just look how you are qualifying all your claims by use of pejoratives like "serious historians". Who does that? Somebody who is pimping falsehoods and wants to preemptively defend them. Sorry I don't have time to reply to the rest. The part where you were talking about "serious historians" and then threw up a wikipedia link was too much for me to bear. You do realize that even wikipedia's version of the Arab-Israeli conflict doesn't support your claims, right? Well, actually you probably don't realize that but whatever.... There is no serious historian today, even in Israel, who denies the Palestinians were ethnically cleansed.

And I'm sure that a historian is only a "serious historian" if Sean or his coreligionists say so, right? I wonder how many of YOUR "serious" historians are held in high regard by their colleagues?

The war was started when Jewish forces began to massacre Palestinians…

That's according to your "serious" historians, right? Because I've never seen any such claim in the formal histories of the conflict.

If you ever wish to graduate beyond your amateur status as an Israeli apologist, you might want to familiarize yourself with Zionist arguments.

I bet everyone who objects to your propaganda is an "Israeli apologist", right? And before you deny being a propagandist, just look how you are qualifying all your claims by use of pejoratives like "serious historians". Who does that? Somebody who is pimping falsehoods and wants to preemptively defend them.

Sorry I don't have time to reply to the rest. The part where you were talking about "serious historians" and then threw up a wikipedia link was too much for me to bear. You do realize that even wikipedia's version of the Arab-Israeli conflict doesn't support your claims, right? Well, actually you probably don't realize that but whatever….

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