My mother is an illegal infiltrator. She has infiltrated her hometown, where her parents were born and where she was raised. Her activities as an infiltrator are as varied as they are nefarious: She takes my sister to school, with the neighbor’s kids. She cooks and cleans her home. We actually purchased that home so that she would have a base to operate from once she had infiltrated. She goes to the gym (I suspect infiltrators probably do need to stay in shape). She visits her sisters; I can’t say for sure if they assist her illegal activities. I’m sure they provide moral support at least. She helps care for her brother’s young children. You see my uncle might have been an infiltrator. They kicked him out of his homeland too, said he didn’t have the right permit to live there. He actually did, but they didn’t want to renew it. He was kept away from his kids for years. Eventually, he was given permission to infiltrate again, but he died a few months later, before this ruling came into effect. So maybe he became an infiltrator posthumously. I don’t know.
I’m not sure when my mother stopped being a member of the community she grew up in, or a resident of the town where she was raised. Maybe it was when she fell in love with a dangerous inmate. It wasn’t a maximum security prison back in those days-he’d actually been allowed to leave Gaza to study. They met in university: she the future infiltrator, he the future prisoner. They were in love, with each other and with Palestine. And love is what screwed them up.
They decided to get married, and you just can’t do that if you’re a Palestinian. It’s not up to you to decide who you marry and where you live and where your kids will be raised or if you can even live together in your own country. That’s all up to the Zionists to decide. So they went ahead and decided that my dad can’t live in the West Bank, because he escaped from that coastal prison. The same rule applies to me, because I was born in Gaza. I tried telling them I didn’t want to be born there, that I’d wanted to be born in Fallujah like my grandfather, but it didn’t matter to them. We were both born in Gaza, so Zionism had bestowed upon us Gaza IDs to prove it. They are in Hebrew. I don’t read Hebrew.
So my mother went back to where she grew up with her eight siblings and countless cousins and neighbors and friends and memories and all that. She went back and tried to live her life again there in the West Bank. But history always catches up with criminals; an unseen clerk in the vast monstrosity that is the Israeli occupation authority had found her guilty of marrying the inmate a couple of decades back. Her (Hebrew) West Bank ID disappeared. She got the Gaza ID instead. And suddenly, one night as she lay asleep in her bed, she became an infiltrator in her own home, her own town, her own country.
Now she is a criminal, but it only seems fitting that a Palestinian would be a criminal for living in their own home. It happened in the lands occupied in 1948, so why shouldn’t it happen in the West Bank? I haven’t seen her for a year, because I’m not allowed in and she can’t get out. And now a mother might get torn away from her kids and sisters and nephews and nieces and sent away, or maybe even thrown in jail for seven years.
This is life under the boot of Zionist population control. Going back to live in your hometown is now infiltrating. Marrying a Palestinian with the wrong ID gives the army the right to split up your family. You don’t decide where to live, or with whom. You can’t see your spouse or your children at will. And when someone in the occupation army decides to change the rules overnight, you know another aspect of normal living will have become criminalized.
Related posts:
- Tears of a Mother
- Happy Mother’s Day
- Celebrate Alone
- Can’t even attend a funeral…
- Gaza: raising us up from the terror
I can't believe your mom's an infiltrator! Kudos for having the guts to narc her out!
Posted by Programmer Buydatti | April 14, 2010, 6:26 pmhttp://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_59374.shtml
Posted by Lisa McB | April 14, 2010, 8:17 pmAre you upset Arabs sold land to Jews?
Posted by jjj | April 14, 2010, 8:25 pmYeah, 6 percent. You stole the rest and ethnically cleansed the people who lived there, and you wholeheartedly support this crime and the continued oppression of the Palestinian people.
Now go fuck yourself, Nazi.
Posted by Sean2009 | April 14, 2010, 9:13 pm6? What percentage did the Turks, and British had?
Are you upset that Arabs and the first Palestinian leader Haj Amin collaborated with Hitler?
look at him does the Nazi salute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVuIht_nzDU
Posted by moe | April 15, 2010, 9:47 amHere are American schoolchildren performing the "Nazi salute," as you put it, while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
The Nazis borrowed it from us.
Making all Palestinians collectively guilty for the actions of a man widely hated by the Palestinians of his time only reveals the inherent racism that is so typical of Zionism, which never sees Arabs as individual humans responsible for their individual choices, but as one massive collective in need of collective condemnation, punishment, ethnic cleansing and death–a mindset identical to that of the Nazis. There is plenty of direct evidence of active collaboration between the Zionists and Italian fascists and the German Nazis, whose fascist, authoritarian ideology they shared even though Jews were the ultimate victims of that ideology.
http://www.mepc.org/journal_shahak/shahak39.asp
It gets tiresome educating morons.
Posted by Sean2009 | April 15, 2010, 8:44 pmHere are American schoolchildren performing the "Nazi salute," as you put it, while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
The Nazis borrowed it from us.
Making all Palestinians collectively guilty for the actions of a man widely hated by the Palestinians of his time only reveals the inherent racism that is so typical of Zionism, which never sees Arabs as individual humans responsible for their individual choices, but as one massive collective in need of collective condemnation, punishment, ethnic cleansing and death–a mindset identical to that of the Nazis. There is plenty of direct evidence of active collaboration between the Zionists and Italian fascists and the German Nazis, whose fascist, authoritarian ideology they shared even though Jews were the ultimate victims of that ideology.
http://www.mepc.org/journal_shahak/shahak39.asp
It gets tiresome educating morons.
Posted by Sean2009 | April 15, 2010, 8:44 pmIn the 1920s, Italian fascists adopted the Roman salute to symbolize their claim to have revitalized Italy on the model of ancient Rome. This was quickly copied by the German Nazis, creating the Nazi salute. The similarity to the Bellamy salute led to confusion, especially during World War II. From 1939 until the attack on Pearl Harbor, detractors of Americans who argued against intervention in World War II produced propaganda using the salute to lessen those Americans' reputations. – JUST LIKE SEAN
You are a propagandist Sean, misrepresenting the facts, twisting the truth, and lying.
The Nazis borrowed it from us. Uhh, no they did not. They were emulating the Italian fascists who were copying the Romans.
Once again Sean is debunked.
Making all Palestinians collectively guilty for the actions of a man widely hated by the Palestinians of his time…
Are you talking about Haj Amin Al Hussayni? He was not hated, be was a prominent leader in Jerusalem. Husayni was born to the influential al-Husayni family of Jerusalem. He also had a nephew named Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni, son of Musa al-Husayni. Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni was a prominent military leader during the Palestinian Civil War.
More of Sean's lies have been debunked.
Posted by Admiral_Akbar | April 16, 2010, 3:44 amIn the 1920s, Italian fascists adopted the Roman salute to symbolize their claim to have revitalized Italy on the model of ancient Rome. This was quickly copied by the German Nazis, creating the Nazi salute. The similarity to the Bellamy salute led to confusion, especially during World War II. From 1939 until the attack on Pearl Harbor, detractors of Americans who argued against intervention in World War II produced propaganda using the salute to lessen those Americans' reputations. – JUST LIKE SEAN
You are a propagandist Sean, misrepresenting the facts, twisting the truth, and lying.
The Nazis borrowed it from us. Uhh, no they did not. They were emulating the Italian fascists who were copying the Romans.
Once again Sean is debunked.
Making all Palestinians collectively guilty for the actions of a man widely hated by the Palestinians of his time…
Are you talking about Mohammad Amin al-Husayni? He was not hated, be was a prominent leader in Jerusalem. He succeeded his brother Kamil al-Husayni as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
Husayni was born to the influential al-Husayni family of Jerusalem. He also had a nephew named Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni, son of Musa al-Husayni, mayor of Jerusalem (1918-1920) and chairman of the Palestinian Arab Action Committee and leader of the Palestinian national movement from 1922 until 1934. Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni was a prominent military leader during the Palestinian Civil War.
More of Sean's lies have been debunked.
Posted by Admiral_Akbar | April 16, 2010, 3:53 amI see you are plagiarizing again without giving cites, Eagle. Do you every have an original thought?
There is no such thing as the "Roman Salute." It was invented by James Upham to accompany the Pledge of Allegiance written by Francis Bellamy, who was a (shudder) socialist. Once it was widely adapted in the US, it spread into the theatre and later cinema where it was falsely used to represent a "Roman" salute though its originators never claimed a Roman origin. The Italian fascists did not copy it from the Romans, but from Italian cinema which had also used it to falsely represent a Roman salute, following the American lead.
The first people known to use this salute in any nationalistic sense were American.
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Roman_sal…
The Nazis repudiated any Italian origin for their salute, as they regarded Southern Europeans like the Italians as an inferior race. Hilter borrowed the salute from the Americans and indeed much of his ideas about race were borrowed from the theories of Nordic superiority that were popular among European and American thinkers of the day, and which were embraced by people like Bellamy long before they were advocated by Hitler:
"The hard inescapable fact is that men are not born equal. Neither are they born free, but all in bonds to their ancestors and their environments…
"The success of government by the people will depend upon the stuff that people are made of. The people must realize their responsibility to themselves. They must guard, more jealously even than their liberties, the quality of their blood.
"A democracy like ours cannot afford to throw itself open to the world. Where every man is a lawmaker, every dull-witted or fanatical immigrant admitted to our citizenship is a bane to the commonwealth. Where all classes of society merge insensibly into one another every alien immigrant of inferior race may bring corruption to the stock.
"There are races, more or less akin to our own, whom we may admit freely, and get nothing but advantage from the infusion of their wholesome blood. But there are other races which we cannot assimilate without a lowering of our racial standard, which should be as sacred to us as the sanctity of our homes."
http://www.oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pdgech4.htm
Individuals who were opposed to US intervention in WWII were photographed doing the Bellamy salute to falsely associate them with Nazism, much the same way as you try to associate the Palestinian people with Nazism. But Nazi-style philosophies of race and eugenics were common among American intellectuals, scientists and public figures long before there was such a thing as a Nazi. None of Hitler's ideas were original. Not a one.
As for the Grand Mufti, we had this debate multiple times and you are still spreading this lie, which only reveals your blatant racism and dishonesty. Even if everything Zionists like you said about the Mufti were true, which it is not, it would be proof of nothing but your own febrile, Nazi-like racism. There is no such a thing as collective guilt. The insistence on some sort of collective guilt on the part of the Palestinians for the Mufti or anything else is the mark of a racist and bigot.
Posted by Sean2009 | April 16, 2010, 9:40 amThere is no such thing as the "Roman Salute."
Your own link describes the way the Roman's saluted? Italian fascists adopted the Roman salute to symbolize their claim to have revitalized Italy on the model of ancient Rome. You can split hairs and play semantics, but your original claim that Nazis got the salute from Americans has been DEBUNKED along with this new claim that there was no Roman salute.
Obviously you are desperate to smear America and anyone else in your defense of the Palestinian Nazi connection.
Nazis ‘shipped arms to Palestinians’
British National Archives unveil presence of Nazi S.S. agents in Mandatory Palestine, working closely with Palestinian leaders
Nazis planned Palestine subversion
British secret intelligence files have been released in London…
The Germans planned – with the support of the Grand Mufti – to arm Palestinian villagers and incite them to rise up against the Jews.
As for the Grand Mufti, we had this debate multiple times and you are still spreading this lie
Again you are DEBUNKED it is not a lie…… The Grand Mufti Of Jerusalem, Amin Al Husseini, met with Hitler to pledge support of the Arab-Islamic Ummah to the Nazi regime and to discuss the progress of the Muslim Nazi [Handschar] divisions, and to arrange the creation of death camps in the Arab world which would be his tools for the extermination of Middle East Jews.
Hajj Amin al-Husayni: Timeline <—-read
Your obsessive denial of the truth reveals your blatant racism and dishonesty.
Posted by seanbunked | April 16, 2010, 5:10 pmGo to the link you provided and read the "Adoption by Fascists" section.
Dude, what is the matter with you? You are so caught up in being anti-American that you can't see the truth about anything.
Posted by seanbunked | April 16, 2010, 5:19 pmSean, look at your logic:
it is so critically important for you to believe that the Nazi salute was copied from America, because that somehow impunes America….. yet the fact that Palestinians collaborated with Nazis and the Palestinian leadership even recruited Muslims for Muslim SS Units… well that doesn't matter and bringing it up is racist (meanwhile you are constantly trying to call everyone else a Nazi).
What the hell is the matter with you?
Posted by seanbunked | April 16, 2010, 5:35 pmjjj, are you upset that you can't find a place to hang out with other Zionists that doesn't sicken you? You never answered my question. Why do you like hanging with Arabs and antizionists so much? It seems to me that you need a breath of fresh are away from the stink of Zionism.
Posted by Jamal | April 15, 2010, 11:17 pmSean2009, watch the video again, The Palestinian leader is meeting with Hitler.
Jamal, he called me a "Nazi", I had to show him the real Nazis are the Palestinians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSUEx1cKUlg&fe…
Posted by moe | April 16, 2010, 9:06 amSo ethnic cleansing in 2010 is justified because someone met Hitler in the 40's. Brilliant.
Posted by MohammadKF | April 16, 2010, 10:59 amMohammadKF: You weaken the word "ethnic cleansing" when you use it to describe the Palestinian crisis. Real ethnic cleansing occurred in places like Sarajevo, or Rwanda. That is not happening in Palestine.
As far as what justifies… the constant attacks of the Palestinians justify Israel's defense and security measures. The activities of Amin al-Husayni are just one example of the ongoing threat that does exist.
The al-Husayni issues also exposes the hypocrisy of calling the Jews "Nazis" when in fact it was the Arabs of Palestine.
Posted by curly | April 16, 2010, 4:53 pmIt shows you the big lie Arab are telling the world, while they have called and call today for the extermination of Jews in Arabic, they cry "ethnic cleansing" in English.
Posted by moe | April 16, 2010, 11:18 amI'm fascinated by your logic, moe. Do Larry and Curly concur?
You don't seem to have a very good command of English. For instance "Arab are telling the world." Also the word "they" should actually be "he." Even then it doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure what I'm saying has gone completely over your head. It's not hard to do in your case when your head is in your ass.
Posted by Jamal | April 16, 2010, 12:56 pmJamal: allow me to make moe's point. Arabs have been lying about what happened, everyone knows this. And the Arabs call for Jewish extermination, please don't pretend you are not aware of this. In English they promote peace, and cry about supposed "ethnic cleansing" but in Arabic they yell about killing the Jews and promote fighting.
Posted by curly | April 16, 2010, 4:47 pmJamal, So I had a typo, arab= Arabs, mmkay?
Posted by moe | April 16, 2010, 5:42 pmYou have an absolute breakdown of logic. The term "the Arabs" is a non-logically binding concept. This is what your Nazi inspired Zionism has done to you. You think in terms of race and ethnicity instead of individuals and legal jurisdictions.
Keep on talking so the world will know what's wrong you freaking Nazis, that you only see the world through race, religion, and ethnicity.
Posted by Jamal | April 16, 2010, 10:32 pmHaven't you noticed that it is a common strategy among those who are wrong to start redefining words, questioning terms, playing semantics and basically trying to muddying the water… and it usually involves some accusation of racism. So common! You see it over and over
Posted by phenom | April 16, 2010, 11:15 pmYou have created this mythical enemy character label called "the zionists" that you can hang on anyone who doesn't agree with you.
And you are still calling people Nazis?
Nazis ‘shipped arms to Palestinians’
British National Archives unveil presence of Nazi S.S. agents in Mandatory Palestine, working closely with Palestinian leaders
Nazis planned Palestine subversion
British secret intelligence files have been released in London…
The Germans planned – with the support of the Grand Mufti – to arm Palestinian villagers and incite them to rise up against the Jews.
Hajj Amin al-Husayni: Timeline
The Grand Mufti Of Jerusalem, Amin Al Husseini, met with Hitler to pledge support of the Arab-Islamic Ummah to the Nazi regime and to discuss the progress of the Muslim Nazi [Handschar] divisions, and to arrange the creation of death camps in the Arab world which would be his tools for the extermination of Middle East Jews.
Posted by phenom | April 16, 2010, 11:22 pmYou know the admins of this site can pretty easily determine who's posting under different names.
Anyway, Zionism is a well established political ideology. Just more noise from people who are desperately grasping at the sticky tape and glue ideological house they've built called "Israel." It will fall soon enough.
Posted by Jamal | April 16, 2010, 11:26 pmRead about Ron Paul and his followers. You will learn everything you need to know about the future of American politics.
Posted by Jamal | April 16, 2010, 11:28 pmYou mean the Paultards? Surely you're not serious?
Zionism means simply: support for the State of Israel in Palestine. But your kind use "zionist" and "zionism" as if its some sort of insult, or a dirty word or a slur. And then you come up with the silly words like zionut and the most hypocritical of all: zionazi.
There is definitely a human rights issue with the Palestinian people. Everyone knows this. Things are not right, everyone knows this. But your kind make the case that Israel should not exist, should be destroyed, (right here you say Israel WILL BE destroyed). Advocating the destruction of nations or advocating war do not help human rights situations.
You make faulty use of terms like "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide" – something which really has happened in places like Sarajevo or Rwanda – to describe the Palestinian human rights situation. You are unable to acknowledge the violence terrorism against Israel. Israel fighting back is unacceptable to you because they are supposed to surrender and die.
Your kind are hateful and mean. Denying the facts and redefining reality is necessary for you…. people who are shown the truth they deny get angry. Your kind of thinking have kept this problem going for as long as it have, and you are an impediment to making progress. But their are people who don't subscribe to your brand of hatred and propaganda who are trying to make progress. The days are numbered for your type of ignorance and hate, although for now the ignorance is still going strong, lights of hope are starting to come through.
Posted by phenom | April 17, 2010, 12:12 am"You mean the Paultards?"
How eloquent.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/po…
Posted by Jamal | April 17, 2010, 12:46 amRomney and Huckabee Now Lead Obama in Potential 2012 Presidential Race
April 16, 2010
Obama trails Mike Huckabee 47% to 45% and Mitt Romney 45% to 44%, the new poling data shows.
The abortion advocate is tied with Newt Gingrich
How funny.
Posted by phenom | April 17, 2010, 2:00 amYep, there are a handful of contenders who can beat Obama. Ron Paul is one of them. The amazing thing about Paul is that despite the fact that the MSM, Wall Street, and the international arms industry is trying to destroy him, he is still a contender. He's probably the only one who can beat Obama ideologically, though, because all the others are merely the same as Obama and Bush.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/po…
Posted by Jamal | April 17, 2010, 2:05 ambecause all the others are merely the same as Obama and Bush.
And that shows your lack of understanding. You don't understand politics?
Posted by phenom | April 17, 2010, 3:10 amBTW, our conversation is now limited to this question as well. Do you think that it's legitimate to separate people based on genetics and religion?
Posted by Jamal | April 17, 2010, 2:08 amAre you trying to make some sort of point about Israeli citizens and non-citizens?
Israeli citizens are Israelis (and some are Arab), while some of the non-citizens of Israel have been repeatedly attacking Israel and committing terrorism.
Israel, like any other country on earth, separates people by citizenship. Simple.
Posted by phenom | April 17, 2010, 3:20 amI'm going to use this thread as an example of Arab insanity in the future. I'm keeping it as part of my database.
Posted by moe | April 17, 2010, 7:22 amRather than answer the psycho troll's blather and trigger a barrage of increasingly incoherent and deranged posts, here are some facts about the Grand Mufti and his role in Zionist propaganda:
The Mufti was never elected by the Palestinian people, but was appointed by the British. During the Arab Revolt of 1936, Husayni attempted to seize total power over the Palestinian resistance by assassinating nearly all Palestinian leaders who didn't accept his leadership unconditonally. As a result of his actions he was widely perceived to have caused the failure of the Arab Revolt by Palestinians and was widely destested. When he met with Hitler, he did so as an individual with little backing from anyone in Palestine. There is no evidence whatsoever of an "alliance" between the Palestinian people and the Nazis. Whatever arrangements the Mufti may or may not have made with Hitler, he had no authority with the Palestinian people to deliver on his promises. There is also no evidence Husayni helped recruit Bosnian Waffen SS units. There is only a photo of him reviewing those same units, which is proof of nothing. In either case, this has nothing to do with the Palestinians.
Making all Palestinians then and now collectively responsible for the actions of a single man who had no authority and little support among them at the time he met with Hitler is racist scapegoating and collective guilt. That Zionists can make the racist assertion of collective Palestinian guilt without the least introspection or self-consciosuness, and expect others to embrace it uncritically despite its obvious absurdity and patent unfairness, is a measure of just how disconnected from reality and any semblence of morality and decency the Zionist ideology truly is. If the continued assertion of the Mufti myth by deranged Zionists proves anything, it is that Zionism is a vicious racist ideology that should be rejected out of hand by civilized people.
Since then, however, "the mufti" has become one of the major assets of pro-Israel propaganda. The argument was and is as follows: The Arabs do not accept the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, therefore they are anti-Semites who want to annihilate all the Jews and to accomplish the Nazi program—the best example being the mufti's alliance with Nazi Germany. This social construction of reality ignores not only the complexity and the fundamentally different basis of the Israeli-Arab conflict but also some inconvenient historical facts. One such fact is that while assisting the Nazis, the mufti lost almost all his influence over the Palestinian Arabs, which he never regained. Another is that during the 1930s and '40s Palestine was the only country in the region (and perhaps in the whole world) where no Nazi party or organization was established. During the 1930s, some Arab, as well as some Jewish, leaders expressed admiration for fascist regimes, but this was before the racist bases of these regimes became clear.
http://www.nimn.org/Perspectives/israeli_voices/0…
So the idea the Palestinian are somehow collectively responsible for this man's actions is pure racist fiction. What is interesting about this fiction, is that while there is no documentary evidence of an alliance between the Nazis and the Palestinians, there is a large body of documented evidence of active collaboration, alliances and attempted alliances between various Zionist groups and the Third Reich, Fascist Italy and with the promotion of anti-Semitism. Are we to conclude from this that the Jews are collectively responsible for the Holocaust? Of course not. But we should conclude from this that Zionism is a political and racial ideology of such depraved cynicism that its adherents would ally with Hitler and collaborate with his plans to drive the Jews out of Europe as a means of securing Jewish immigrants for the creation of the Jewish state in Palestine.
http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner1223.html http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/5… http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/index.ht…
part 1
Posted by Sean2009 | April 17, 2010, 7:39 pmOne such fact is that while assisting the Nazis, the mufti lost almost all his influence over the Palestinian Arabs, which he never regained.
As did ever Nazi leader everywhere in the world. Duh?
Another is that during the 1930s and '40s Palestine was the only country in the region (and perhaps in the whole world) where no Nazi party or organization was established.
Amin al-Husayni recruited young men of Islamic faith for service in German military, Waffen-SS , and auxiliary units. In turn, the Germans and the Italians used al-Husayni as a tool to inspire support and collaboration among Muslim residents of regions under Axis control and to incite anti-Allied violence and rebellion among Muslims residing beyond the reach of German arms.
During the 1930s, some Arab, as well as some Jewish, leaders expressed admiration for fascist regimes
Yes.
but this was before the racist bases of these regimes became clear.
No. Wrong. This was until the Nazis started losing. The racist nature of the regime was clear, and that is why Amin al-Husayni sided with them, he was racist against Jews.
The Grand Mufti is the religious leader of the Arabs in Palestine and simultaneously their highest judge and financial manager. Because of his nationalism, the British have persecuted him bitterly and put a price of 25,000 pounds on his head. His adventurous voyage brought him over Italy to Germany.
Posted by consumer | April 18, 2010, 2:04 amwhile there is no documentary evidence of an alliance between the Nazis and the Palestinians, there is a large body of documented evidence of active collaboration, alliances and attempted alliances between various Zionist groups and the Third Reich, Fascist Italy and with the promotion of anti-Semitism.
WRONG. The alliance is a well documented historical fact. Collaboration between Jews and Nazis is shady and convoluted, and not as clear cut as the association with Amin al-Husayni. Sean this is lying propaganda, this stuff rots your brain.
This whole thing is talking about Nazi and Palestinian efforts against the Jews, and then concludes to call Jews racist. Wake the fuck up. This stuff is rotting your brain.
Posted by consumer | April 18, 2010, 2:11 ampart 2
The principles of the alliance as proposed in LEHI's document submitted to Hentig were to be LEHI's unconditional acceptance of the Nazi "New Order" in Europe, together with "a state of the Jews to be established on nationalist and totalitarian foundations and tied to the German Reich." The state was to be established "within its historic boundaries." Yair considered it impolitic to explain to Hitler in full geographical detail exactly how those "boundaries" were envisaged. In the event the Nazis accepted the offer, "LEHI would join the war, fighting on the side of Germany, provided the latter would recognize the aims of the Israeli Liberation Movement." The "state of the Jews" would commit itself to being "allied with the German Reich." The alliance, as the document carefully explained, "would be our answer to a recent speech of the Chancellor of the German Reich, in which Mr. Hitler expressed his readiness to rely on any conceivable coalition and configuration of forces promoting isolation of Britain and thereby contributing to its ultimate defeat." Heller adds that subsequent LEHI proposals forwarded to Hentig and listed by him in his own memorandum, "without hesitation suggested a cooperation [with the Nazis] in military, political and intelligence domains within Palestine, and after suitable organizational preparations, also outside Palestine."
In a letter addressed to Hitler, the leaders of the Zionist terrorist organization called the NMO, LEHI, or Stern Gang, which included future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir, offered an alliance with the Nazis in exchange for recognition and support of a Jewish state, and stressed the mutual goals of the Zionists and Nazis in solving the "Jewish question" by removing the Jews from Europe, and also their shared totalitarian ideology.
The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and complete through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people, Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historic boundaries.
The solving in this manner of the Jewish problem, thus bringing with it once and for all the liberation of the Jewish people, is the objective of the political activity and the years-long struggle of the Israeli freedom movement, the National Military Organization (Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Palestine.
The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:
1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.
2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium would be possible and,
3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East.
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/irgunazi…
Posted by Sean2009 | April 17, 2010, 7:39 pmwhile there is no documentary evidence of an alliance between the Nazis and the Palestinians, there is a large body of documented evidence of active collaboration, alliances and attempted alliances between various Zionist groups and the Third Reich, Fascist Italy and with the promotion of anti-Semitism.
WRONG. The alliance is a well documented historical fact. Collaboration between Jews and Nazis is shady and convoluted, and not as clear cut as the association with Amin al-Husayni. Sean this is lying propaganda, this stuff rots your brain.
This whole thing is talking about Nazi and Palestinian efforts against the Jews, and then concludes to call Jews racist. Wake the fuck up. This stuff is rotting your brain.
Posted by consumer | April 18, 2010, 2:08 amSo this attempts to distract from the al-Husayni/Palestinian issue by bringing up all this other convoluted stuff? Sean this stuff rots your brain. Wake up.
Posted by consumer | April 18, 2010, 2:10 amAnd yet it is was the Arabs and Palestinian Arabs who joined the Nazis, and planned to exterminate Jews in Israel. Palestinian Arabs today call for the extermination of Jews, and call Jews "pigs and monkeys".
Not to forget that they celebrate terror attacks, not only on Jewish civilians, but also the mass murder of 9/11.
Posted by moe | April 17, 2010, 8:53 pmSean: thank you for the link from the now defunct website Not In My Name. And the Marxist websites. When you are done with the ideological propaganda, maybe you should read some facts….
Hajj Amin al-Husayni: Timeline
We don't need interpretations and explanations and Marxist ideology. We just need the facts. So please, by all means, read and learn. Thank you.
Posted by consumer | April 18, 2010, 1:49 amSean,
Thanks for the update on the Grand Mufti.
I have learned a lot from it. I have to admit, I am a Palestinian.
Keep in mind Jews are acting above God these days.
It is a criminal offense in Germany and the rest of EU to deny or even question the holocaust , yet
you can deny the existence of God, and no one gives a hoot. Our freedom and liberty are going down the drain every day the sun rises.
Hold the fort my friend!
You are not alone.
Posted by Mahmoud El-Yousseph | April 25, 2010, 3:40 pmMahmoud, Sean is lying to you, the British confirmed Palestinians collaboration with Nazis:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1423589.st… http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3248081…
Nazis were caught and killed hiding in Arab areas!
Posted by moe | April 25, 2010, 9:53 pmI know a Palestinian who got a speeding ticket the other day. This proves that Israel has the right to occupy Palestine. If you don't agree, you deny the Holocaust and are worse than Hitler.
Posted by Jamal | April 26, 2010, 1:07 am"Jamal" (a traditional Arab name),
Palestinians claim to be a nation with a history. If they deny the Palestinian leadership of the Mufti then – WHO WAS THEIR LEADER? What government did they have?
This is not some schmoe on the street, this is the leadership.
Posted by moe | April 26, 2010, 6:47 amYou're still speaking in made up words like "nation." Palestinians are the people who lived in Palestine before it was invaded in the mid 20th century. The idea of an ethnic "nation" has been discredited as racist and war like.
Posted by Jamal | April 26, 2010, 1:11 pmYes "Jamal" now you attack the word "nation" because there is no such thing as "Palestinians".
Let's call them Arabs shell we? Arabs who immigrated to the land called Israel.
Posted by moe | April 26, 2010, 2:25 pmMoe, I think somewhere you're actually quite intelligent. You're just trapped in an impossible situation, that of having to rationalize your existence by rationalizing Zionism.
Here's a little bit of advice. When the world around you is falling apart, try to start uttering the truth. At least you can have the satisfaction of watching it fall apart rather than being taken down with it.
Posted by Jamal | April 26, 2010, 3:20 pm"Jamal" "the world around you is falling apart" because Arabs crash planes into buildings, car bombs, suicide bombings and so on. The Arabs call it "Jihad".
Posted by moe | April 26, 2010, 5:50 pmI'll take that as a cry for help, Moe. Whenever you want to start talking about what's really wrong with you, let me know.
Posted by Jamal | April 26, 2010, 9:24 pmI'm talking about what's really wrong with Arabs and the Mideast.
Posted by moe | April 29, 2010, 10:21 amHaj Amin al-Husseini eventually died in exile in 1974. His place as leader of the radical, nationalist Palestinian Arabs was taken by his nephew Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, better known as Yasser Arafat. In August 2002, Arafat gave an interview in which he referred to "our hero al-Husseini" as a symbol of Palestinian Arab resistance.
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