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“If they build a mosque at ground zero, fly a plane into it”

While much the country is focused on whether or not the organizers of Park51 will change their minds and move or whether or not jihadis are in a tizzy over the debate, some real home-grown extremism has been cropping up, and not of the Islamic variety:

The group is called “If they build a mosque at ground zero, Someone should fly a plane into it”, and if it hasn’t been taken down for TOS violations, you can find it at Facebook here. Though many of the Wall posts seem to be from Park51 supporters, digging a bit deeper brought forth some terrifying imagery.

A Photoshopped image of a plane flying into Masjid Hassan II in Casablanca, Morocco

This one, from Donna Fimiami Maher, whose profile picture is of a Confederate flag, is a Photoshop rendition of an airplane flying into Casablanca’s Masjid Hassan II. Yet another shows two airplanes flying over a praying crowd in Mecca, with one heading toward a minaret of the Masjid al-Haram and another toward the Kaaba. The Facebook page, it seems is linked to an open-enrollment group called Group Zero. Inside the password-protected forum, members make suggestions such as: “When it’s finally built we smear it with pigs blood”. Though there’s evidence within the Group Zero forum that suggests the Facebook page was intended as an elaborate joke, it is evident from some of the postings that many members of the group, which now boasts over 2,000 people, aren’t getting the “humor”.

Members like Eric Smith and John McGraw certainly don’t seem to think it’s a joke.  Both men have explicitly called for members of the group to rise up and fight Muslims.  Meanwhile Janice Shzion is busy repeating racist tropes and denigrating President Obama.  Christy Miller‘s got a major hard on for Muslims.  And there’s good ol’ Jim Mccauley calling for us to just “nuke the fucks.”

Ah, but here’s some good clean fun…

Ah yes, sending pork products to Jews and Muslims.  That’s just downright hilarious.

In all seriousness, we–not just Muslims but allies as well–should consider that one of these might be a genuine threat.  Just like there are Muslims out there who would fly a plane into the World Trade Center, there are absolutely, without a doubt, people out there just dying to do the same to a minaret:

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25 Responses to ““If they build a mosque at ground zero, fly a plane into it””

  1. These are the sensitivities that the ADL is oh so very concerned with

    Posted by Fadi | August 24, 2010, 1:00 pm
    • Fad…Most of the freaks are card holding members of the ADL….all this stuff i.e. ( NeoCons, Tea Party, Birthers, Obama is a Muslim) is being financed and operated by God's "Chosen Ones".
      Big howdie to Pam Geller aka "Elsa shewolf of the SS".

      Posted by Chauncey | August 25, 2010, 5:14 pm
  2. I would rather see this much excitement about the BDS movement. Resolutions to boycott Israel will end up liberating Palestine, as they spread and empower Palestinians to speak up and demand basic human rights.

    Posted by Divest Resolutions | August 24, 2010, 2:10 pm
    • Is someone paying Mechanical Turkers to leave spammy comments about BDS? Man, I'm all for BDS, but this is so crazy out of context.

      Posted by peppermint patty | August 24, 2010, 2:41 pm
  3. I am not a "turker".
    Until I see this jokey blog start to organize some BDS campaigns, I will keep reminding you to do it.

    Can you imagine if the Free South Africa Movement had stopped marching for divestment, just to run some kind of jokey blog with an ethnic caricature on top of the page?

    I don't care– repeat, don't care– how excited you get about a few Republican operatives running their mouth about a masjid in New York.

    I don't care how much hoopla is manufactured over Danish cartoons.

    Keep your eyes on the prize, and boycott the bastards who are the cause of all this– the State of Israel, in case you forgot.

    Posted by Divest Resolutions | August 24, 2010, 2:49 pm
  4. KabobFest is not responsible for organizing any boycott against Israel.
    KabobFest is responsible to do the one thing it values most highly– to crack jokes while Gaza is strangled.

    Laugh it up, Kabob-ers.

    Posted by Boycott Israel | August 24, 2010, 8:44 pm
  5. No, I am 100% unconcerned with hate speech toward Muslims. Show me Danish cartoons all day, and I will push them away.

    Here is why. I can choose to use my time crying about how bad the Republicans are for hating on Muslims— or I can try to end the main cause of all that hate: U.S. support for Israel.

    I choose to focus on cutting all ties with Israel– and boycott is the way to verbalize that most clearly these days.


    If you just cry about the hate speech, you simply frighten Muslims into using their energies to vote for their "friends", who speak a bit less hatefully.

    So, in your defensive desperation, you end up NEVER allowing anyone to embarrass the Democrats about their support for Israel.

    I say boycott Israel, and don't get sucked into the crying game, which only paralyzes you.

    Posted by Divest Resolutions | August 25, 2010, 11:25 am
    • no theyre most likely one of those palestinian activists who are so secular that they are bitter and have bias against anything islam, they hate the fact that islam is such a close part of palestinian culture (not saying that christianity isnt as many palestinian christians also tie it in) which makes these extreme secularists demonize and bad mouth anything islamic by taking a few examples to generalize the whole. theres nothing wrong with being secular or not religious but to have such an immature defense mechanism is disturbing and you begin to get closer and closer to the crazy tea party idiots who are making this whole mess…

      BDS is a very important cause but so is this and if you don't realize it then you have tunnel vision

      Posted by pali | August 25, 2010, 11:39 am
  6. I am not demonizing Islam. It is true Muslim students are more scared of the Zionists than they are of the Almighty, and will never demand BDS publicly– however, the most secular students are exactly the same way.

    The religious and the secular have united around saying nothing for BDS. Instead they are munching their way through banquet halls, giving Zakat to feel like they are doing something for Palestine.

    Better to abolish the whole reason so much Zakat is needed: the racist state of Israel itself, and its hundreds of atom bombs.

    Posted by Divest Resolutions | August 25, 2010, 11:52 am
    • Excuse me. I am aware that 99% of the readers do "support and adhere to BDS" — in their basements.
      I am also aware that 100%of MSA's "support and adhere to BDS" — in their basements.
      Furthermore, 100% of the ADC membership does "support and adhere to BDS" –in utmost secret.

      However, virtually none of them are publicly demanding BDS on their campus, in their city council, or in any public place that would be covered in any media outlet.

      So you can save your secret "support" and "adherence" to BDS.

      For those who wonder what this "BDS" code means, it is: Boycott against Israel, Divestment against Israel, and Sanctions against Israel– the last openly apartheid state on Earth.

      Thank you.

      Posted by Divest Resolutions | August 25, 2010, 1:27 pm
  7. You're preaching to a group of people whose members (or at least some of them) actually do support and adhere to BDS. What are you doing to convert the uninitiated? Stop wasting your time here and talk to the millions of people who have never heard of BDS.

    Posted by JillianKF | August 25, 2010, 1:06 pm
  8. B, with all due respect, inundating comments sections of blogs with your outrage that nobody is doing anything for BDS does not in fact constitute lifting a finger to make BDS happen. May I suggest that you spend your time more wisely by actually pursuing BDS initiatives, rather than misdirecting your outrage herein.

    Posted by Fadi | August 25, 2010, 1:24 pm
    • I have often demanded boycott and divestment against Israel in student government meetings from 2000 to 2010, in city council meetings from 2002 to 2010, outside the local food co-op from 2007 to 2010, outside a major supermarket for years, and elsewhere.

      I remember when you did, too, many years ago. I trust you will do so again.

      Posted by Divest Resolutions | August 25, 2010, 1:31 pm
  9. I am glad to hear it. I hope to see your boycott advocacy on KabobFest.

    Posted by Boycott Israel | August 26, 2010, 7:53 pm
  10. You've highlighted on an important point in this article. While following up with the whole issue, the blind wave of hate speech aganist Islam and Muslim is elevating yet the focus is on the debate of what so called 'Ground Zero Mosque' and the 'Muslimness of Obama' as you mentioned.

    Posted by Hicham Maged | September 4, 2010, 2:48 am
  11. Well shit.. never thought i'd say it but wheres the SS when we need it.

    Posted by Guest | September 9, 2010, 9:11 pm
  12. everybody go fuck themselves

    Posted by bitch | September 19, 2010, 10:42 pm
  13. The Ground Zero Mosque is incredibly tasteless and disrespectful. Yes, they have the right to build it there, and they should, but it just goes to show how disrespectful many Muslims are that they actually desire to do so.

    And why must the Ground Zero Mosque supporters classify everyone who dislikes Islam as Christian, Jewish, zionist, racist, xenophobic? It's incredibly hypocritical to profile everyone you don't like into a single group, because they profile everyone they don't like into a single group. I actually am none of those things, and usually am very liberal myself, but I'm shocked and appalled at how terribly the left, for which I usually argue, is at arguing. You guys don't even listen to the other opponent. And you're losing the more moderates among you who aren't acting like mindless drones from 1984 who repeat all day that Islam isn't evil. Don't take my word for it. Go get a Qu'ran and read it. Go google how shitty it is to be a woman in Saudi Arabia.

    So many of the people on here are very liberal and left, which is funny because when it comes to Christians – mock, undermine, and destroy! But Muslims? Embrace and love? It's utterly retarded. I think it's evil and wrong to put up the mosque, and disrespectful to even support such a thing, and I hope the left comes to its senses, or at least decides to be consistent on all religion!

    Posted by hahaha | September 28, 2010, 5:19 pm

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