tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post7415613445607662500..comments2007-09-03T05:28:58.603-07:00Willhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04776960696689767044noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-39092334694015172882007-09-02T19:01:00.000-07:002007-09-02T19:01:00.000-07:002007-09-02T19:01:00.000-07:00Anon 5.50.<BR/><BR/>You make a good point. I started by saying that Vick comitted a crime, so yes, I agree with your point, and his actions are criminal. But whether he's a criminal or not is getting into a philosophical debate that I do not do an adequate job at. <BR/><BR/>But I also thing Foxx makes a good point in the sense that Vick's bigger crime is not running a dogfighting ring, but doing so as a high-profile black man. Foxx speaks to how trivial inner-city kids see dogfighting, but blames Vick for not knowing better.Fayyadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00868866776001791979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-49924062267410907352007-09-02T18:44:00.000-07:002007-09-02T18:44:00.000-07:002007-09-02T18:44:00.000-07:00Is Jamie Foxx an egomaniacal macho jackass?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Is a he a great actor?<BR/>No<BR/><BR/>Is he better than the average Hollywood actor?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Does this tell us something about how low the standards are for Hollywood acting?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Was his best work his standup?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Did he get the Oscar for being a moderately charismatic, moderately talented performer playing an enormously talented enormously charismatic performer?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Should he get his ass kicked for being in a yay-let's-kill Arabs movie?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Is America racist country where, as Tupac said "life's hell for a Black celebrity"?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Does this mean that Michael Vick was "politically lynched"?<BR/>No<BR/><BR/>Does he deserve to get his ass kicked for killing dogs WITH HIS OWN HANDS just for him and his punk-ass friends' macho amusement?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Is Michael Vick the best place for folks to be expending their ire at the racist-ass criminal justice system?<BR/>No<BR/><BR/>Are there shitloads of kids locked up on nonviolent drug charges that deserve lockup far less than Vick and have less chance of recovering from it than he does?<BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/>Should we focus on those kids instead of one full-of-himself, never did shit for the Black community piece of shit?<BR/>YesSaladinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04837554769802794747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-15967275525306276532007-09-02T17:50:00.000-07:002007-09-02T17:50:00.000-07:002007-09-02T17:50:00.000-07:00Fayyad,<BR/><BR/>I like most of your post as social commentary, BUT, when you write something like this:<BR/><BR/><I>correctly identified Vick as stupid rather than criminal.</I><BR/><BR/>Do you really mean to say that Vick's actions were not criminal? That's a hugely different point than saying something like turning Vick into public enemy number one says more about America and the media than it does about Vick and dogfighting.<BR/><BR/>But, dogfighting is, you know, illegal. As is running a dogfighting ring.<BR/><BR/>One applicable section of the U.S. Code:<BR/><BR/><I>It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly sell, buy, transport, deliver, or receive for purposes of transportation, in interstate or foreign commerce, any dog or other animal for purposes of having the dog or other animal participate in an animal fighting venture.</I><BR/><BR/>http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/7/chapters/54/sections/section%5F2156.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-43555656723438963612007-09-02T17:36:00.000-07:002007-09-02T17:36:00.000-07:002007-09-02T17:36:00.000-07:00I have to disagree. His comment about Vick is a smart, sarcastic, and charged one. It's less of a defense of Vick and more of an attack on the institution of political correctness.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Vick committed a crime, but we all know the reaction amounted to a political lynching. Hardly anybody seems interested in addressing the long-standing problems of dog fighting in the inner city, trivializing violence through video games, or sanctioning war and killing humans for no legitimate reason. Foxx managed to take a swing at those, and correctly identified Vick as stupid rather than criminal. There is a manual of what not to do for anybody who makes it big, especially if they're a minority, because it is true they get you on a technicality, but the motive is always political.<BR/><BR/>As for the 850,000 sq Km, the guy just does not know metric... I bet you if you ask him to convert it, he'll say it's 1 sq mile.Fayyadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00868866776001791979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-90929198003228962402007-09-02T17:23:00.000-07:002007-09-02T17:23:00.000-07:002007-09-02T17:23:00.000-07:00<I>I think I have a good idea who ANON 3:14pm might be. ;-)</I><BR/><BR/>I guarantee you that you don't.<BR/><BR/>But the logic that (<I>comedian</I>) "Jamie Foxx couldn't possibly be joking/exaggerating about a palace being 850,000 square kilos because he said something dumb defending Michael Vick" is, well, so mindbendingly ridiculous, that calling it "logic" is an affront to the concept. <BR/><BR/><I>so I can't say with 100% certainty that he wasn't being sarcastic</I>.<BR/><BR/>Oh My God.<BR/><BR/>Miss Teen South Carolina has some serious competition, and not in the flawless makeup department.<BR/><BR/>Wow.<BR/><BR/>Embarrassing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-60183063786810156802007-09-02T15:58:00.000-07:002007-09-02T15:58:00.000-07:002007-09-02T15:58:00.000-07:00Ha ha... ANON 2:53pm, sorry but ANON 3:14pm just took my comment. But that's okay because I think I have a good idea who ANON 3:14pm might be. ;-) <BR/><BR/>Seriously, I would have liked to think that Jamie wasn't really lame as easily as you but A) I heard too many stories and B) his recent Michael Vick defense borders on... there's no way to put this delicately: mental incapacitation. <BR/><BR/>Here's another fun quote:<BR/><BR/>"It's a cultural thing, I think," Jamie said. "Most brothers didn’t know that, you know. I used to see dogs fighting in the neighborhood all the time. I didn't know that was Fed time. So, mike probably just didn't read his handbook on what not to do as a black star. I know that cruelty to animals is bad, but sometimes people shoot people and kill people and don’t get time," Jamie continued. "I think in this situation, he really didn't know the extent of it, so I always give him the benefit of the doubt."<BR/><BR/>Admitedly, I didn't see video of Jamie as he said this, so I can't say with 100% certainty that he wasn't being sarcastic (that term applies here, right?) so perhaps... well, maybe we should also give him the benefit of the doubt.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/24/jamie-foxx-defends-vick-_n_61662.html" REL="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/24/jamie-foxx-defends-vick-_n_61662.html</A>QuiQuihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14505136522098333760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-39204880547667442162007-09-02T15:14:00.000-07:002007-09-02T15:14:00.000-07:002007-09-02T15:14:00.000-07:00I was a PA on In Living Color and I will tell you that Jamie Foxx wasn't the brightest crayon, but he was really nice. But now that he's going around defending Michael Vick, he's a dick. A stupid one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-33090006673766715202007-09-02T14:53:00.000-07:002007-09-02T14:53:00.000-07:002007-09-02T14:53:00.000-07:00Wow, QuiQui, the fact you can't tell he was obvioulsy joking (not sarcasm, by the way - but hyperbole/exaggeration) is pretty amazingly f-ing scary.<BR/><BR/>I think you just lost your license to make fun of Miss Teen South Carolina.<BR/><BR/>Wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-54924083108059867012007-09-02T11:20:00.000-07:002007-09-02T11:20:00.000-07:002007-09-02T11:20:00.000-07:00I'll say that the "arena football" comment following the 850,000 km. statement in a pretty good indication that Foxx was joking around.Hishamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17368259736564164670noreply@blogger.com