tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-87410499104367647472008-01-14T07:01:00.000-08:002008-01-14T07:01:00.000-08:002008-01-14T07:01:00.000-08:00PC -<BR/><BR/>Your threads are becoming loonier and loonier. When I asked you what exactly in Christian doctrine made it offensive to have Abbas accompany Bush to Bethlehem, you copped out saying 'I won't argue Scripture with you...but most Americans would be offended' (as if American public opinion is more important to Christian thought than Jesus' actual teachings!). Fine, but then don't tell me that it's Christianity and not Islampohobia that is fueling the offended feelings. I stick by my points: Bush is an arrogant, belligerent, warmongering poor-people-crushing, environment-raping asshole. His every action flies in the face of Jesus' teachings. Similarly, most American Christians know very little about the faith they profess. Ask the average bible-thumping American the story of the transmission/passing down of the Gospels. Or about the tensions between Revelations and, say, the book of Luke. They'll stare at you like retards and fumblingly quote their gay-hating corporate-whore pastor quoting the Bible. That's not religion -- it's sheepiness. They aren't offended at the notion of Abbas accompanying Bush to Bethlehem because of anything Jesus said -- they're offended because they are riding along with the easy assumptions of a racist, anti-Muslim culture and they're too fucking lazy to do anything but what their corrupt pastors and president tell them to do.<BR/><BR/>A few other random correctins to your rant:<BR/><BR/>- the colonies in the 18th c. looked a hell of a lot more like our own era -- in terms of political institutions, emergent corporate power, type of english spoken, etc. -- than the medieval era. Any historian will tell you that.<BR/><BR/>- Of course the discussion of slave labor is relevant -- do you think that a nation-state just magically <BR/>happens when you say 'we are a nation'? No, dude - you need land, houses, crops, and money money money. Almost al of this was made possible through the most widespread, brutal and unrelenting system of slavery the world has ever seen. Without slaves there would have been no U.S. - period, do-not-pass-Go.<BR/><BR/>-A hell of a lot more people than Jefferson were Desits. And it's a different thing than Unitarianism. Which is a different thing still than Christianity per se. Again, to say that the Founding Fathers were Christian is oversimplifying. Read Tom Paine's (one of the Founding Fathers) "Age of Reason" some time.<BR/><BR/>- If Bush says that he appealed to his Higher Father and then STILL decided to go ahead and bomb little kids (make no mistake, that's what he did), then, yes, he's claiming that Jesus said it was ok. ANd you know what? I don't believe him.<BR/><BR/>- Finally, your idea about a new crusade is cute in a bloodthirsty way. I'd only begin to consider it if it was all swords and lances and boilnig oil, though. Um, and of course battle axes. I think you said in some earlier thread that you were once in the service (maybe it was someone else)? So maybe you'd actually have the balls to get involved in such a Crusade. But most Americans, though they talk a lot of murderous shit from behind a keyboard/bomber flight stick/Presidential podium, are too chickenshit for what you propose. SO you might have trouble raising your Crusader army.Saladinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04837554769802794747noreply@blogger.com