tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6358737.post-89902253936257774802008-01-14T08:02:00.000-08:002008-01-14T08:02:00.000-08:002008-01-14T08:02:00.000-08:00Saladin,Your threads are becoming loonier and loon...Saladin,<BR/><BR/><I>Your threads are becoming loonier and loonier.</I><BR/><BR/>I thought insanity was what Kabobfest was all about? I posted a comment some time ago that this one is a no-brainer that we shouldn't even be arguing about. It's fucking OBVIOUS that the things Diana wanted from Bush are things that would be embarrassments (at best) for Bush and the United States. <BR/><BR/>And yet, you persisted with the dumb arguments about why he should have gone along with it.<BR/><BR/><I> When I asked you what exactly in Christian doctrine nlah blah blah...</I><BR/><BR/>That's not what you asked me. You asked me if there was anything in Christian doctrine. It's your tendency to retroactively change your the discussion around that convinces me arguing scripture with you would be a waste of time.<BR/><BR/><I>His every action flies in the face of Jesus' teachings.</I><BR/><BR/>Here you are, claiming to know Jesus. Again. Do you think he would approve of your behavior in this thread?<BR/><BR/>(snipped some racism and bigotry)<BR/><BR/><I>A few other random correctins to your rant:</I><BR/><BR/>As many deliberate lies as you have told, and you're still issuing "corrections", eh? :P<BR/><BR/><I>- the colonies in the 18th c. looked a hell of a lot more like our own era -- in terms of political institutions, emergent corporate power, type of english spoken, etc. -- than the medieval era. Any historian will tell you that.</I><BR/><BR/>Nonsense. Any "historian" who tried to tell me that, would be a liar. You just made that up, didn't you? Just completely made it up. And then endorsed yourself with imaginary historians :D<BR/><BR/>Way to go, mister holier-than-thou.<BR/><BR/><I>- Of course the discussion of slave labor is relevant</I><BR/><BR/>No, it's not. Slaves do not wield and political power (or any other kind of power) within a state. I used Libya as an example of a Muslim country that employed non-Muslim slave labor during the same time period. Every Arab country employed slave labor during that time period. Did that make them less Arab? Or, less Muslim? Would you say that Saudi Arabia is not a Muslim country, today, because they employ hundreds of thousands of non-Muslim "guest workers"?<BR/><BR/>Your comments are stupid. Look at them. Seriously. Re-read what you have written. The arguments you make are stupid, and the cheap tactics you use to try to win despite the weakness of your arguments are sleazy.<BR/><BR/>Stupid and sleazy. That's you.<BR/><BR/><I>-A hell of a lot more people than Jefferson were Desits.</I><BR/><BR/>Nonsense. And I challenged your claim that Jefferson was a Unitarian, for that matter.<BR/><BR/><I> And it's a different thing than Unitarianism. Which is a different thing still than Christianity per se.</I><BR/><BR/>Again, these are bullshit arguments you are making. The difference between a Trinitarian and a Unitarian, is belief in the trinity. Since the concept of the trinity was invented several hundred years after the death of Jesus, and didn't exist while he was alive, I think it['s a hard sell to claim somebody isn't a Christian just because they don't believe in the trinity. That wouldn't be a LOGICAL position to have. That would be an extremely narrow-minded and dogmatic position to have. Is that you? Narrow-minded and dogmatic?<BR/><BR/><I> Again, to say that the Founding Fathers were Christian is oversimplifying. </I><BR/><BR/>No, it's not. The founding fathers were Christians, as much as I am a Christian. Most of them were far more religious than I am, actually.<BR/><BR/><I>Read Tom Paine's (one of the Founding Fathers) "Age of Reason" some time.</I><BR/><BR/>This is what I love about you. The assumption that everyone else knows absolutely nothing. Tell me, are you used to dealing with 10 year olds? Blank slates and all that?<BR/><BR/>You know, I've heard all these arguments before. Years ago. It became popular to challenge Thomas Jefferson's beliefs back in the early 1990s. It became popular to claim the US was built by slaves in the 1980s, wasn't it?<BR/><BR/><I>- If Bush says that he appealed to his Higher Father and then STILL decided to go ahead and bomb little kids (make no mistake, that's what he did), then, yes, he's claiming that Jesus said it was ok. </I><BR/><BR/>Are you completely insane? If I prayed for guidance about whether I should ask a girl out, and then I asked her out, would that mean Jesus told me I should ask her out?<BR/><BR/>You are an atheist, aren't you? No religious person thinks that's how prayer works.<BR/><BR/>Why don't you just come out and say it? Are you afraid people will dismiss what you have to say about religion? They probably do that anyway, because what you say doesn't make much sense :P<BR/><BR/><I>So maybe you'd actually have the balls to get involved in such a Crusade. </I><BR/><BR/>Oh, I would. This one would be coming from the heart, too. Which is something people in the military don't have going for them, very often.<BR/><BR/><I>But most Americans, though they talk a lot of murderous shit from behind a keyboard/bomber flight stick/Presidential podium, are too chickenshit for what you propose. SO you might have trouble raising your Crusader army.</I><BR/><BR/>You think so? I think we could recapture a lot of Holy Land with the troops that are in Iraq right now. Maybe, all of it. It's the Jews that would give us the most problem. But the United States Marine Corps alone is larger than the whole Israeli military, so I think it's doable with the US military as it stands.<BR/><BR/>Now that I know you are an atheist, though, I understand why you think access to the Holy Land is such a trivial matter. Perhaps Diana is also an atheist. But a lot of wars have been fought for access to that land in the past. A lot of people died. Trying to tell Christians when they can visit their own holy lands and under what circumstances is not a wise thing to do.programmer craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17566950406349754166noreply@blogger.com